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jamboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 08:25 PM Original message |
"Prima Facie" evidence of Ohio election fraud -- Pacifica Radio |
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New Earth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
1. why dont i see that phrase used in the article? |
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jamboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 08:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. That article doesn't use the phrase, the reporter did on the air. n/t |
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Flint-oid (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 02:56 PM Response to Reply #8 |
75. Radio Link: How the Vote was Rigged |
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jamboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 08:48 PM Response to Reply #75 |
84. See the transcript in my posting below. (#82) n/t |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 08:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
19. Confirmed. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 01:38 AM Response to Reply #19 |
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berniew1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 12:36 AM Response to Reply #62 |
105. Strong indications of major electronic glitches or fraud in Ohio counties |
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Stand and Fight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
2. Redirect |
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jamboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 08:40 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. We were probably typing simultaneously. :-) I'm okay with multiple threads |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 08:54 PM Response to Reply #2 |
22. jamboi's title is more descriptive. eom |
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dave502d (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
3. How come Jackson is always the last DEM standing?i thank him. n/t |
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troubleinwinter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 08:43 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. He's a Dem, but what are the others doing for us? |
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MrUnderhill (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
4. So if Kerry doesn't win a particular state... no other Democrat can win |
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TimeToGo (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 08:40 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Yea, I agree |
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jamboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 08:49 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. This absolutely IS very, very strong evidence. It doesn't give the nuts & |
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madozone (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 01:34 AM Response to Reply #14 |
60. Comparing two races proves nothing |
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mulethree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 01:24 AM Response to Reply #60 |
99. Sad |
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jamboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 08:43 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. The idea is that it makes no sense that the judge's and Kerry's vote total |
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ArthurDent (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 08:48 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. except that |
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jamboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 09:12 PM Response to Reply #13 |
29. Cliff Arnebeck just said on LF that Conally is dem. Don't know if that |
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MrUnderhill (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 08:50 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Sure it does. |
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jamboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 09:29 PM Response to Reply #15 |
36. If you look into the details you'll see doesn't make sense -> prima facie |
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MrUnderhill (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 09:53 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. Only if "prima facia" has suddenly started to mean "wishful thinking" |
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Ducks In A Row (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 10:05 PM Response to Reply #4 |
45. here in oregon the Dem SOS and Dem Senator receive more votes than |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 01:29 AM Response to Reply #45 |
57. don't forget.... |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 08:23 PM Response to Reply #4 |
83. I agree |
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tinfoil_beret (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
5. Wow! |
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jamboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 08:43 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. "Prima Facie" is what the lawyers called it according to the reporter. n/t |
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ValleyGirl (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 08:46 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Prima Facie |
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shraby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 08:50 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Same thing happened in New Mexico |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 10:15 PM Response to Reply #16 |
48. Same thing happened if FL |
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jamboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 08:51 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. Mix. Most of Ohio was punch card. A few counties had machines. Recount |
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Skink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 08:52 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. Pretty F'nn airtight |
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rehema (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 09:02 PM Response to Reply #12 |
25. Here is one legal definition of "Prima Facia" |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 09:17 PM Response to Reply #12 |
30. Not usually the meaning in law |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 01:31 AM Response to Reply #12 |
58. "prima facie" |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 02:53 AM Response to Reply #12 |
65. It means "on the face of it" or basic. |
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Critical Thinker (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
17. consulting the dictionary, prima facie evidence |
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jamboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 08:53 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Okay, I updated the posting w/ your info. Thanks! n/t |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 09:01 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. Legally, your second definition is better. |
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Debbie13 (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
23. I feel like the tide is finally starting to turn. |
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tinfoil_beret (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
26. This looks suspicious. |
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Evening Star (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
27. Air America Radio Coming NOW on the Laura Fanders Show |
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Evening Star (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 09:21 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. One of our lead attorney's in OHIO |
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jimnm (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
28. The only election that counts! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 09:22 PM Response to Reply #28 |
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jimnm (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 09:24 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Hmmmm |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 09:28 PM Response to Reply #33 |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 09:29 PM Response to Reply #33 |
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jamboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 09:36 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. Maybe theirs was OtT but your post was unnecessarily provactive too. n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 10:00 PM Response to Reply #33 |
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jamboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 09:34 PM Response to Reply #28 |
37. Actually Jan 6 is the drop dead date, when the envelopes are opened |
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jimnm (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 02:32 PM Response to Reply #37 |
73. No so. |
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burn the bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 09:38 PM Response to Reply #28 |
39. FRAUD supercedes it. Bush will never be the President |
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jsascj (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 09:40 PM Response to Reply #28 |
40. What are you anyway? |
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jimnm (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 02:24 PM Response to Reply #40 |
72. What am I? |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 11:33 PM Response to Reply #72 |
90. I'm for separation....Let's divide the country....Let the thieves send |
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jamboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 12:18 AM Response to Reply #90 |
95. Tempting isn't it. :-) n/t |
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Cowboy Joe2k (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 03:25 AM Response to Reply #28 |
70. This is not a matter of This Election! This is about the next one! |
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jimnm (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 02:34 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. Not Burying.....participating...eom |
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Cowboy Joe2k (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 11:55 PM Response to Reply #28 |
92. No Jimnm |
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jsascj (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
41. Okay... |
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jamboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 09:55 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Read by computer then tabulated by unprotected MS Windows running MSAccess |
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jsascj (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 11:03 PM Response to Reply #43 |
53. Ah ha... |
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bj2110 (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
46. Legal Definition - Prima Facie |
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dewaldd (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
47. JACKSON'S CONNALLY NUMBERS ARE ALL WRONG!!! |
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bj2110 (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 10:16 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Are you looking at margins or totals? I couldn't get to your spreadsheet. |
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Patsy Stone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 10:24 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. If they really are using these as evidence |
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drummer55 (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 10:26 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. Got it Jacksons Numbers are right Its the margins their talking about. |
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nodictators (977 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 07:35 PM Response to Reply #47 |
81. Instant Analysis: Here is a way to view the Ohio data easily |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
52. ""Prima Facie" evidence definition |
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cosmicdot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
54. kick |
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jamboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 12:27 AM Response to Original message |
55. Anybody get a transcript or a Pacifica press release covering this?n/t |
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jamboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 03:48 AM Response to Reply #55 |
71. A MUST-HEAR: LINK TO AN INTERVIEW W/ THE LAWYER |
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jamboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 10:14 PM Response to Reply #71 |
88. Post #82 has the transcript n/t |
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jamboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 01:14 AM Response to Original message |
56. The Jesse Jackson angle will definitley get airplay. The Prima Facie |
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senegal1 (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 01:32 AM Response to Reply #56 |
59. kick |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 01:36 AM Response to Original message |
61. Deleted message |
senegal1 (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 02:09 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. ok kick |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 02:27 AM Response to Reply #63 |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 02:56 AM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Why are you repeatedly posting this everywhere? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 03:07 AM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Deleted message |
saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 03:25 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Name calling is forbidden by our Board rules. I suggest you adhere to them |
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rainbow4321 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 03:15 AM Response to Original message |
68. History of ES & S/Diebold |
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texpatriot2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 03:17 PM Response to Reply #68 |
76. kick |
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jamboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
77. MUST HEAR INTERVIEW W/ LAWYER ON PACIFICA |
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__Inanna__ (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 09:27 PM Response to Reply #77 |
85. I hate to be picky |
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jamboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 09:31 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. Where does it say that? n/t |
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Ladyhawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
78. To me, the numbers look "hinky," but don't offer definitive proof. |
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gasperc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 09:28 PM Response to Reply #78 |
86. once a hand recount is done of these counties, it expose fraud |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
79. AP on Yahoo: One Month Later, Fight Over Ohio Continues |
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jamboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
80. We need a transcript of the radio interview. I guess I'll work on it if |
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jamboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 08:12 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. Transcription of radio interview w/ Cliff Arnebeck |
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jamboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 11:08 PM Response to Reply #82 |
89. Do we have a good place to post this on the web? Kos or something? n/t |
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Not_Without_A_Fight (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 12:31 AM Response to Reply #82 |
104. Thanks for the hard work |
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 11:48 PM Response to Original message |
91. Holy moly... |
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jamboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 12:19 AM Response to Reply #91 |
96. Did you read the transcript of the interview? #82 below n/t |
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pat_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 12:03 AM Response to Original message |
93. Hold your horses. The Connally thing is probably NOT a smoking gun |
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 12:12 AM Response to Reply #93 |
94. pat_k -- look at the table at the bottom of the FreePress Article... |
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pat_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:42 AM Response to Reply #94 |
101. Those numbers ARE NOT what you think |
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dzika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 12:28 AM Response to Original message |
97. Judge to rule Tuesday on part of challenge to Bush victory in Nevada |
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jamboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 12:59 AM Response to Reply #97 |
98. Should JJ visit NV too? :-) n/t |
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:36 AM Response to Reply #98 |
100. Jesse should visit everywhere! |
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tinfoil_beret (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
102. That's not prima facie evidence. |
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jamboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 03:59 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. The lawyer called in Prima Facie evidence, not moi. ;-) n/t |
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