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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 07:51 PM
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MUST WRITE International Inspectors before their final reports come out!
Let's let them know what really happened!

I heard back from the two international inspection agencies referenced in this thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x83897

There final reports are yet to come out. They must need our input, don't you think?

Especially given the likes of this:

There were allegations of voter fraud which focused mainly on the accuracy of the voter lists and the need to ensure that votes were only cast by those entitled to do so. These included references to voting by persons ineligible to cast a ballot, multiple voting and unlawful voting by ex-felons. Such concerns were addressed in part by the use of challenge procedures, which allowed party representatives, voters and poll workers to confront voters directly in the polling station and challenge their eligibility to vote. However, the EOM is concerned that even the prospect of such challenges might have the effect of deterring participation by legitimate voters. Allegations about voter disenfranchisement and so-called voter suppression were also widely aired. It was claimed that such practices included non-processing of voter registration applications, the improper removal of eligible voters from voter lists, harassment and intimidation of voters.
While recognizing the seriousness of the above allegations, the EOM was not provided with first-hand evidence to substantiate them or to demonstrate that such practices were widespread or systematic.

From the preliminary report (another is due shortly):
http://www.osce.org/documents/odihr/2004/11/3779_en.pdf

Here is their 2000 report
http://www.osce.org/documents/odihr/2003/01/1465_en.pdf

They also monitored the 2003 California election, but I did not see a report for it.

CONTACT: Urdur.Gunnarsdottir@osce.org

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The other group apologized for the delay and said their report would be out by this Friday on this site:
http://www.fairelection.us

CONTACT: nell@fairelection.us
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jamboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 08:16 PM
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1. Excellent catch! n/t
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 09:11 PM
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2. So will you write?
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 09:34 PM
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3. Shamelessly kicking own thread...
because it seems important!
These people might be in a position to add weight to our cause. Their reports are due out in a few days. Come on. Somebody write. I would but I am not feeling that articulate just now.:bounce:
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AtLiberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 09:52 PM
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4. I tried to send an e-mail to urdur...
Edited on Mon Nov-29-04 09:55 PM by AtLiberty
...but it was returned "undeliverable."

???
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 10:09 PM
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5. That's weird. Try this:
Edited on Mon Nov-29-04 10:12 PM by Ojai Person
Urdur.Gunnarsdottir@odihr.pl

The one on the original post above worked yesterday, but the response was from the one here.

Thanks for writing. Let me know if this doesn't work.
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jamboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 11:22 PM
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6. I watched this group's initial report on CSPAN. They were fairly muted in
whatever criticism they offered. Part of it is probably cultural because the Swiss woman who was giving the report was exceedingly diplomatic so it was hard to tell exactly what she was saying.
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 11:33 PM
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7. Their preliminary report seems like it has a shred of integrity,
just kind of clueless, like everyone else, I think, who just didn't see the votes being stolen in broad daylight.

They make quite an issue of the redistricting, so that there are no challengers to incumbents.

Also, they note how many precincts they were not allowed to see.

I think they might take any evidence we present seriously.

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jamboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 12:06 AM
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9. I think your idea is excellent.Did you also post in the Activism Forum?n/t
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pointsoflight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 11:33 PM
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8. Excellent idea.
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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 12:31 AM
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10. Kick!
:puffpiece:
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:17 AM
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11. I wrote myself.
I posted it in its own thread.

This is important enough that perhaps it should be a group effort.

Here is the letter I came up with. Please feel free to correct it or add or suggest anything, or PM me or add your name if you want to sign it. Or write your own.

Dear Urdur Gunnarsdottir,

I respectfully submit the following remarks in the hope that they will be considered by the committee writing the final report.

I hope that your final report is more conclusive than the preliminary. Many of us in the United States are worried sick that we no longer have a democracy. People have said that your organization is a shill for the corrupt Bush administration, but I detected some integrity in the remarks of your preliminary report.

There are many more knowledgeable and articulate than I am in these matters. I am writing because I think no one else who has seriously studied this election takes your organization seriously. They are convinced of massive vote fraud involving not only extensive vote suppression of minorities, but also widespread padding of the so-called "popular vote" via central tabulators of electronic voting. This election is not the first in which this has taken place in this country. Others under your watch in earlier elections have also defrauded us of our vote, and you have said nothing. I am hoping it is just because you couldn't believe it, couldn't see it. Now you cannot help but see it if you carefully consider all of the evidence.

We are sick that here in this supposedly "great democracy" they are saying that exit polls are not reliable indicators of the vote, but yet in the Ukraine the same polls are being used to overturn an election with the support of this administration. I do not think the people can take four more years of being lied to. Having to watch the Supreme Court put Bush into office last time was enough. This time there is evidence that there was widespread vote fraud, so massive that people don't believe it. Exit polls do not lie. In every state where there is a paper trail, exit polls fit with the final tally. But where there is no record or way to audit the vote, there is a much greater than chance drift ALWAYS in Bush's favor. I hope that your report will address this. And please do not come out with the pablum spouted in our corporate-owned media that the shift is insignificant or explainable by women voting early or Bush voters not telling exit-pollsters how they voted. This issue of the exit polls has been seriously addressed by independent academics at UC Berkeley and the University of Pennsylvania, among others. Their studies are widely available, and I certainly hope that you have honestly taken them into consideration in your report.

We are also sick that so many people were not allowed to vote and it was made to look line an oversight or accident. This was a serious violation of civil rights, and it did cause hundreds of thousands of votes against Bush not to be cast. With our country increasingly in the jaws of one party who does not consider opposing points of view, we have no recourse for these violations, just as we had none in the 2000 election. The problem this time is that the disenfranchisement was much, much greater than before. And it was most certainly intentional. In many minority precincts, where a huge voter turnout was expected, fewer polling machines were in place than in the last election, causing voters to have to wait in line for hours. In Ohio, the voters were lined up in the rain until 3:15 am. These were Kerry voters. In many instances their votes were not counted if they did get to vote. The provisional ballot rules have just made it easier for partisian election officials to discard as many ballots as they see fit. In vital "swing" states such as Ohio and Florida, it has been a case of Bush's top campaign managers being in charge of the voting process.

This is a time when we need international support more than ever. We have been the victims of a coup in broad daylight. More and more people are becoming aware of it, and it is going to come out. But the citizens of this once great democracy need your help. Please investigate all of the facts and tell the truth.

If you need verification of anything I have said, I will provide it. The facts are there, however, for any astute observer to gather.
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