Keith is on and he's going to be talking about the new..

F word= FRAUD!

:)

Are you saying that Blackwell is going to be on Countdown?

This should prove to be most interesting -- to say the least. What a spin this is going to be.

definitely said the new "F" word is Fraud.

People would probably like to know about Katherine Blackwell.

I was going to post about Blackwell myself, but changing yours works just as well.

journalist in history. We should all frame his picture and hang it on a wall in our homes.

he also knows how to ask some tough questions.
He didn't let Katherine Blackwell weasel out of much.
And, I have no problem with Blackwell being on - that's the REAL definition of "fair and balanced" news. The reporter asks the questions - tough questions of all - and lets the respondent answer instead of yelling over them a la Hannity or telling them to "shut up," a la O'Lielly.

But, he did look awfully sad when he was reporting on Dick Ebersol. See, reporters can really be human and have concern for friends/fellow humans and still act in a professional manner throughout the rest of their show/job/duty.

He didn't even throw the wad of paper at the camera at the end.

No amount of fraud changed the result of this election.

Fact: Gore, more actual votes than Bush.
Who is in the WH now?

Good luck.

Nothin to see here (bodies laying around all bloodied, burning wreckage spewed across the entire area, firetrucks by the dozens and cop cars everywhere, sirens blaring, people screaming,) Move Along now everybody, nothin to see here. Everything is fine. Just move along now...

it is quite obvious you have never read or studied the most wonderful document that so many have laid their lives down for , or lost limbs for or were forever changed for . Let me be the first to introduce you to it, and please do read it, as it lays out the proceedures for electing a president of "my" country in it!! If you have a problem with those proceedures, may i suggest a very warm place you may feel more comfortable with??..cuba...take your swim suit..its really hot there now...orrrrr...start reading and aquaint your self with the rules of my land , the United States of America!!!


THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION

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(See Note 1)

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Article. I.
Section 1.
All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.

Section. 2.
Clause 1: The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by the People of the several States, and the Electors in each State shall have the Qualifications requisite for Electors of the most numerous Branch of the State Legislature.

Clause 2: No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.

Clause 3: Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons. (See Note 2) The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct. The Number of Representatives shall not exceed one for every thirty Thousand, but each State shall have at Least one Representative; and until such enumeration shall be made, the State of New Hampshire shall be entitled to chuse three, Massachusetts eight, Rhode-Island and Providence Plantations one, Connecticut five, New-York six, New Jersey four, Pennsylvania eight, Delaware one, Maryland six, Virginia ten, North Carolina five, South Carolina five, and Georgia three.

Clause 4: When vacancies happen in the Representation from any State, the Executive Authority thereof shall issue Writs of Election to fill such Vacancies.

Clause 5: The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

Section. 3.
Clause 1: The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, chosen by the Legislature thereof, (See Note 3) for six Years; and each Senator shall have one Vote.

Clause 2: Immediately after they shall be assembled in Consequence of the first Election, they shall be divided as equally as may be into three Classes. The Seats of the Senators of the first Class shall be vacated at the Expiration of the second Year, of the second Class at the Expiration of the fourth Year, and of the third Class at the Expiration of the sixth Year, so that one third may be chosen every second Year; and if Vacancies happen by Resignation, or otherwise, during the Recess of the Legislature of any State, the Executive thereof may make temporary Appointments until the next Meeting of the Legislature, which shall then fill such Vacancies. (See Note 4)

Clause 3: No Person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty Years, and been nine Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State for which he shall be chosen.

Clause 4: The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided.

Clause 5: The Senate shall chuse their other Officers, and also a President pro tempore, in the Absence of the Vice President, or when he shall exercise the Office of President of the United States.

Clause 6: The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.

Clause 7: Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.

Section. 4.
Clause 1: The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.

Clause 2: The Congress shall assemble at least once in every Year, and such Meeting shall be on the first Monday in December, (See Note 5) unless they shall by Law appoint a different Day.



go ahead..goggle it...do you think you can read it???

What in the world are you doing? Did you even read the post? Do you not understand the concept of sarcasm? DON'T EVER REPLY TO A POST OF MINE LIKE THAT AGAIN.

I will consider this an honest mistake and complete misinterpretation on your part. BUT DO NOT LET IT HAPPEN AGAIN.

Thank you.

ohhh my i did totally misunderstand your post , i read it incorrectly !!!!!!!!!..i don't know why either, i thought it was someone being nasty to dems , i totally mis read it and i am ever so sorry!! i sincerely hope you accept my apology! fly

It's all good. I knew you misread. All is forgiven :)

:pals:

i don't know how i read that so wrong, but i sure did!!!!!!!!!!
again my apologies!! guess i am so used to posting and getting my brains beat in..i just react to dispell attacks ..and i just simply did not read this right!!..my humble apology!!!!!!!!!!!!fly

You have done well, Grasshopper. Welcome, Newbie.

:pals: :hug:

This was rude. Poster was obviously being sarcastic. You'll be put on ignore lists if you keep posting flamers like this. No one will want to play with you. And what fun would that be?

again. Thanks for that part of it. The original poster was obviously being sarcastic, so you're all on the same side of the question. No need for fighting.

Maybe I should ask:
Are you in the Right Party?

Prove it beyond a REASONABLE doubt.

where have you been?

or are you saying that he cheated just a little ?

That's the bottom line.

Oh, my, the things we can be led to believe when we don't want to see what lies dead at our feet. I prefer to poke at democracy with a sharp stick, see if it will make an effort to stand up for itself.

I suppose apartheid doesn't count as fraud, dirty tricks don't count as fraud. :eyes:

Tainted election. GWB and Rove, the pickpockets in the voting booth.

End of Story.

college but then MOST OFFENSIVELY--fix the popular vote and discourage a repeat of 2000 cause we (Repubs) ain't so sure we can win in the courts this time!

if the result would change? It is a question of confidence in the system. I have none. I had none in 2000, but I thought it would have been fixed by now. In 2000, I truly thought we were dealing with ignorance, not intent. Now I am not at all sure.

"Guys, Bush <stole> more actual votes than Kerry <got>."

That's better.

we dealing with? Maybe enough to not only shift the all important Ohio to Bush, but the popular vote too. We don't know and more than a few of us are wondering about fraud nationwide now. Also in the U.S. since we live by the constitution we don't go off the popular vote, we go with the electoral college which means that enough fraud to flip Ohio is enough to flip the national election. So its quite possible we may elect President Kerry. We don't know yet and won't know at least until Jan. 6th. That is if we stick to the constitution and don't go all the way towards Banana Republicizing the U.S.

Maybe he did, but maybe he didn't. We don't know right now, and I would like to know. THAT'S what this is all about!

He's really upset. Sorry, Keith!

I live in a stupid town in Oklahoma and the cable company refuses to carry MSNBC because it is too liberal. So, I can't watch the show. What's being said? I don't want to have to wait until our boy Keith O. posts. Thanks so much.

;)

They are friends, and he was really upset. In the middle of the report he must have received news that they found the body of Ebersol's second son. Also, there's a story on OLB's henchmen Zawahiri.

because my healthy, happy little boy was climbing on me at the time.

Man... I can't imagine. I just can't imagine.

Word has it that Keith Olbermann was his protegé; that is, Ebersol was his mentor. So, they were probably pretty close, and word just came out that his son was likely killed. (Ebersol's 14yr old son, that is. Sad.)

I know it's oily-tinfoily, but with small planes falling out of the sky like rain lately, nothing would surprise me...

:)

Coming from someone who apparently got rid of post #34...

;-p

edit>> darnit, #34 posted to quick, oh well.

tonight to pay tribute to Dick Ebersol on-air. Also, as they came on the air the late breaking news was that they had indeed found the body of Dick Ebersol's 14-year old son in the wreckage--that had to be tough to deliver that news live on the air when someone was your friend.

of being "partisan" on the subject.

answered my own question.

Please let us know if he let's KHB off the mat or not.

while waiting for JJ--heard this

just decide they don't want to entangle themselves in this mess? I am not at all into Kerry-bashing, but a very large number of voters worked to get him into the WH. Just because the process in messy can he just choose to abandon the political process? It is not about him, it is the American voters right that is in question. People should be putrting a lot of pressure on him - there should be a peaceful sit-in in front of his house or DNC office.

Seems like he's not that concerned about those of us who supported him through all this. I don't know anymore....

to get that money back, at the least

with faxes which voice people's grievances

Funny how when the Sh*t's about to hit the fan it comes out?

Raise the terror alert...funny how this is an old tape.

it alternates between the tape and the traffic light colors. Speaking of which...it has been awhile...

will do, will go with my tie"

cut like the other one. The Washington Post released the whole video AFTER the election. The GOP is using fear mongering again because maybe one of the many reasons to impeach this chimp is going to come out!

He did say "internets" though. :)

What a flipping moron the Bush is!! Good grief. I used to believe we'd elected Charlie Brown as president until Charlie wrote me a strongly worded letter and demanded an apology....

}(

Signer wouldn't interpret lies. Ms. Dimitra?

Glibs recount in NV and NV

Said Jesse said fraud.
Clip of Jesse...winning and losing, fraud and stealing.

Kerry quotes, we've heard.

Press Release: Dems struggle to justify unnecessary recount...

Cost to taxpayers...
Discounting the Glibs...
Everyone know they can't change the outcome...
EC on 13th of December...

He keeps saying, "Keef"

Katherine Whitewell

lying dickhead.

Blah, Blah, Blah.

Doing 10 minutes on why it takes fron 11/2-12/6 to certify.

I sent him a formal apology and a brand new football to kick around with Bush's picture pasted on it...

:crazy:

as soon as Chuck gets close enough.

I just had a thought and Rove's chunkiness kinda reminds me of ol' Charlie Brown... Dammit. I'm sure I'll get another strongly worded letter from Charlie now... Damn. Oh well, to hell with 'em.

:evilgrin:

from the movie 'Being There".

That is Pres. George W. Brainless.

That was genius. * is stupid.

misinterpreted his affableness and simple phrases as genius. They didn't recognize that he was just a dimwit. That is the point. This is what some red staters attribute to Bush. His simplicity,(stupidity) and his outward folksiness is interpreted as honesty and forthrightness.

:puke: :crazy: :silly:

and much more sinister than Chance G. Chance did not have a mean-spirited bone in his body.

This is more than one guy, we need a big group hiding the identity of its real leader, like the computer in Logan's Run, or The Leader from Sleeper to complete this analogy.

When I heard Dennis Miller say the reason he likes Bush is that he's "plain spoken," I almost fell off my chair. I thought, "It must be something in the air...the man who was told to get off MNF because no one in Alabama could understand what the hell he was talking about, appreciates *'s plain spoken-ness." Twilight Zone.

People are scared and his cabal is feeding and causing the fear. It doesn't matter if you're famous like Miller and that twit Ron Silver. His group of stormtroopers only tells you what to fear, who is to blame, and who will keep you safe from those wolves.

Evil is afoot...

The only similarity between CG and Bush is in people's misinterpretation of their true abilities and attributing qualities to each that they do not possess. I personally think we'd be better off with Chauncy as President, don't you?

Chauncy says 'I like to watch.' B**h would say 'I like to watch people die.':o

:) OK, that's f'n funny! Sad, but true and funny, cuz it's true.
Oy, we're screwed.

we have to wait till Urkranine fraud case is over.
I love those protesters in the Ukranine!!

protesting.

I think if there were thousands of people there crying "fraud" something would be done, and be done quickly.

Just my two cents.

to the taxpayers (1.5 million give or take a few buckos).
Says the Greens are entitled to a recount---1956 law set the bill at 10 dollars --says this is outdate. complain, complain!!

Really is laying it on JJ!! --stiring up a hornets nest--Blackwell says of JJ!!
says his office is NOT taking any steps to stop a recount.
Blackwell seems real ticked off!!

Lil' shits like him are always ticked off when they are caught red handed.

...as an example of fairness...Kerry won Franklin County

That is his point. He won it despite the massive election day fraud.

:evilgrin:

Honary c0-chair of Bush-Cheney reelection committee. JJ had brounght this up in his talk. Keith asked him about this--but Blackwell not answering the question!!

well!!

Blackwell obviously has a bee in his bonnet about JJ coming to OHIO! te he te he

Too many years ago, but I think he proffered himself as a candidate.

Blackwell has no sense of history.

Rethuglicans' ever know anything about history ever? I mean other than what their mammy reads um from them that there Bible? And even then they can't get that straight.

Thou shalt not steal!

Of course he won't answer the question. It's a tough and direct question.

...had complete control of that interview.

No hard questions were asked of him - missed opportunity.

Somebody needs to hold his (Blackwell's) feet to the fire, but this seems to be Keith's style of interviewing.

Would you be at your snappiest under such conditions?

KO's heart just wasn't in it tonight when he needed to hammer Blackwell a little harder. I mean he had just heard on air it seemed that his friend and colleague's son was dead, his voice was shaky when he relayed that news just a bit earlier. So it's understandable that he didn't go after Blackwell the same way he might have done had this tragedy not happened. KO's style seems to be more sarcastic than pure aggression though and he did try to pin some stuff on Blackwell. Sleazy people like Blackwell don't come across well no matter how much they smile into the camera. He revealed more about himself than the questions asked of him indicated, at least I thought so. It's obvious he's ticked at JJ, and he did admit, however begrudgingly that the recount will go forward. I bet he'll wish he hadn't said that. All in all, I thought just getting the F word said on national TV by a national figure, and JJ is a national figure, was important. Great news about recounts possible in NM and Nevada.

We should write to KO and thank him again, as I do every night. It was particularly difficult from a human perspective to go on with tonight's show. Let's thank him.

I'm sure he didn't, and that campaign photo-op gone belly-up was a waste of over a million dollars of taxpayer money.

Blackwell needs to get over himself.

wasn't it?

Just wants to count those votes, damn him! And it's so expensive!

recount--and no dounbt many will be!!

Best. Comeback. Ever.

He sure didn't care about the old Byzantine rules for the election when it came to the weight of the paper on registration forms, did he?

If you only count registered voters it's about 18 cents per person.

that is the most important fact, people need to hear this and know about the conflict of interest.

http://www.votecobb.org
for details.

but thanks

The guy is a crook!

We should hang this fucker and all the Bushies in effigy! Just like they did during the our American Revolutionary War. Hell, if we could get our hands on 'em I'd say TAR AND FEATHER!

I'm quite sure you wouldn't have meant it this way, but I'd like to point out that hanging a Black man in effigy---even if it is Blackwell---would be horribly culturally insensitive, I think. I mean, you know, lynching and all that?

Maybe not such a good idea, but I appreciate and share your anger and frustration (especially since I'm an Ohioan).

Keep him sweatin'!:kick:

*snort* Blackwell, as his voice cracks and he stumbles, that he did not meet with Bush on election day. We're sure.

Katherine Blackwell is doing his best to shoot ALL recount messengers

He is proud of his election system that leaves folks in line for over six hours, in some cases...

He is obfuscating bi-partisanship over his obvious conflict of interest being Rash on Heiney '04 chairman, and Ohio SOS -- He takes a few more shots at Jesse Jackson stating he couldn't get elected to dogcatcher in his state

What an arrogant turd, albeit expected given his political affiliation

What is the good Reverend Jesse Jackson saying?

from the Rove/bush campaign--demean the messenger

campaign?

this was the best election ever, Keef."

I kept looking for his bunny teeth...

Sorry. Couldn't help myself.
He is a lying thug and I am a little upset.

As far as what Katherine Blackwell said it was just Blah blah, blah blah blah blah blah blah.. You know, same old stupid everything was perfect rhetoric.

I don't care about that though, it was what was expected. What I dooooo care about though, is HOLY SHIT are we getting to this guy! I was laughin my ass off so much! He was so transparent. Trying so hard to seem in control but he simply just wasn't. He would keep sayin Listen Keef, Ok Keef, Keef listen LOL then he would smile the fakest smile you've ever seen! (ya know kinda like bushies in the debates!) You could tell this guy is flustered and nervous. He was attacking Jackson so bad like he hurt his feelings or something. I don't know, it just cracked me the hell up. I'm tellin you guys, he is friggin starting to crack. Too fuckin funny

He was so mad at Jesse. For having the nerve to come to Ohio and make all this mess in his neat little plan. Damn those Democrats who want to spend so much of YOUR MONEY counting those votes that we've taken so much time to cook for Our Leader.

Aaargh...

Poor Keef was very upset and I think he had so much more on his mind than us. And rightly so.

backstage at Countdown!

This is going pretty well, I think.

when the Coulters,Hannities, Limbaughs and their cult start stirring from their caves/coffins/underneath rocks to snarl & snipe at the good guys.

with the stick long enough, eh?

I wanted to start a pool on when the machine would start whirring noisily. I guess JJ did it.

:)

No paper trail problem,also the long lines and few machines in the high dem areas

He always gets his way. This is such a joke. Let the Kerry bashing of not fighting hard continue. :cry:

And they've got Lawrence Guyot, Civil Rights Activist, and some Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson... A fucking sell-out if ever there was one.

is on Fox right now.
www bondinfo.com
Saying that whenever the Dems lose--they blame the Reps.
Peterson is demeaning Jessie Jackson for getting involved (similar to what Blackwell was saying on Countdown a few moments ago.
Both quests are black.
Guyot---civil right activist-- is talking aslo (the other quest).

he obviously is very upset over the plain crash of his former boss and close friend

through against the people of Ohio at the 11th hour. Remember provisional ballots were supposed to be counted afterwards, no matter which precinct they had been filled out in, if election officials were able to find that a voter had registered somewhere in the state. I think Ohio's ruling on provisional ballots (Blackwell's nefarious work) was different than in all other states in that it required provisional ballots to be thrown out and discounted, even if the voter's registration was found, if the voter had voted in a precinct that did not match the one they resided in. I thought that was the whole purpose of HAVA adding provisional ballots, to accomodate those that had valid registrations but were for some reason attempting to vote in the wrong precinct. If they were found later, when the provisionals were being counted, not to have been legally registered, then the PV could be tossed. Blackwell was allowed to toss the provisional ballots cast in the wrong precincts even if a valid registration in the state was found for the voter. This was achieved with a last minute sleazoid ruling. If this is a different way of handling PV than the rest of the states, doesn't that make it illegal, since HAVA is a federal law? Is it just me, or is this a glaring irregularity in Ohio?

This really is beginning to seem hopeless.

Said Democrats ran elections in some counties. Well golly gee. Maybe Democrats can be crooks too.

less credible perhaps than if KO had been going in for the kill with this idiot--maybe that was his strategy, perhaps??

Jesse hit a nerve. Blackwell was pissed, agitated and nervous.

A nice little political pig sticking on the Reverend Js part. The good part about pig sticking is you know you you got a hit when the piggy squeals.

That the FBI denies it ever contacted Blackwell about elevated terror alerts?

The FBI denies having ever contacted Warren County elections officials.

And--DAMN! You keep posting at this rate and you're going to catch up with me tonight! LOL

a defiant nod to his fans.

whatever he wants to ramble about. More to pick apart. He did vow that there would be a recount. He also took quite a nasty snipe at Jackson -- the dogcatcher remark.

Wish Keith would have stuck up a little for Cobb/Bad. Maybe said something like "don't you think they are to be commended for pushing for the verification of U.S. voting apparatus?"

of his personal sad news.

I think he came off very even-handed.

You know, live to fight another day. Let's see what the next day brings.

:")

was segway from the Ukraine election fraud right to Ohio. It was effective.

Again, I could not get over how B-well really demeaned the "clergy" vocation.

I'm sure that he was not on form. He was upset and I think we all need to chill a bit on KO.

1) Missed asking him how a recount could take place in 7 days, and if it matters to him that he'll probably miss the safe harbor.
2) Missed asking him about Warren County, Ohio
3) Missed asking him about the counties that were suing to prevent the recount.
4) Missed asking him about the 80lb. paper incident.

If you're reading this, Keith, thanks for your good works. I'm sorry about your friend.

kolbermann@msnbc.com

Keith.Olbermann@MSNBC.COM

and told him to keep up the good fight.He's our only MSM voice right now.

Kick Kick Kick
Do not stop kicking guys. Wahooo, Yeepeee...

The Note, ABCs political email clipping service I get each AM, mentioned the Ohio recount and noted" we'll let you know when it is time to tune in".....

Welcome to DU. :hi:

Do you have a link to sign up for this news service? Would you please cut and paste the whole clip you received? If you do, I'll post it in a new thread for you since you can't post yourself yet. I think this is important for DUers to know.