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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 11:47 PM
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Sequoia employees were in the tabulation area in our county during
the primaries to oversee tabulation and make sure their brand new machines worked ....

Read this Sequoia crap, I didn't remember that the Sequoia employee in this article who was here was from London!!!!

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Except for a small glitch in getting a final printout, Smith said the new touch-screen voting machines from Sequoia Voting Systems Inc. worked well.

"The counting, it was very quick," Smith said. "It is just a wonderful system."

She said the only slowdown was having to count the non-computer generated vote.

"We had a delay with our mail-in precincts but we will correct it," Smith said. "I am very pleased and I am glad it is over."

Final results from Tuesday's balloting were compiled by 10 p.m.

"Sequoia helped us a lot with it," Smith said.

Four Sequoia representatives were on hand to help Elko County officials with using the system for the first time.

Sequoia Field Technician Dave Allen, who is a native of London and based out of the firm's Denver office, said the system seemed to have worked well in its initial use in Elko County.

"Very good, indeed," he reported.

Smith had said that 99 machines would be in service during the primary election in Elko County.

"This is our first statewide experimentation," Allen said. "It is quite a challenge to do that successfully, and that is the result of the hard work of the election officials."

Nevada Secretary of State Dean Heller mandated that all voting in the state would utilize the Sequoia system.

Allen said the system had been used in various counties in Florida and California.

"What makes this unique is that it has been implemented in every county in the state," Allen said.

He also said it was the first time that Sequoia had utilized the voter-verified paper back-up system.

Smith said it took about five seconds for the computer to read each of the wafer-sized flash cards from the voting machines.

"The value of that system is that it is very flexible," Allen said, as well as secure.

"It is completely embedded," he said.

Allen said all the votes and file information is encrypted.

"It is almost impossible (for the system to be tampered with)," he said. "Of course, even if someone did manage to do it, the chances are they would be caught."

"It is easier to attract fraud in electronics because you can easily see the trends," Allen said. "In a paper-based system it is far more difficult to see the trends."

Allen said working in Elko County was a new experience for him.

"It's a bit different than London," he pointed out.

Allen also said American ballots were much more complicated than British ballots, in which voters cast ballots only for members of Parliament and local councils.

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http://www.elkodaily.com/articles/2004/09/08/news/local/news3.txt
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 11:49 PM
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1. We saw impossible trends and no one thought anything about it...
and no one was caught so far.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 11:55 PM
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3. the corruption may be here!
ELKO - Elko County voters played a historic role in the re-election of George W. Bush as president of the United States.

Voters in Elko County accounted for more than half of the president's winning margin in Nevada, which proved to be the state that gave Bush the needed electoral votes to capture a second term in the White House.

Bush carried Nevada by a 21,567 vote margin, or a 50-47 percentage edge.

Elko County returns accounted for more than 50 percent of that margin when voters cast 11,935 votes for the president.

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http://www.elkodaily.com/articles/2004/11/03/news/local/news1.txt
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 12:30 AM
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10. Tell me about Elko, NVMojo.
How many people in the county? How big is it? Is Elko also the name of the biggest town? How many voting age citizens? How many registered voters? What were the results for 2000? What percent of RV's voted in 2000 and 2004? Was there a much bigger turnout in 2004?

Can we drill down to see whether the big Bush win was out of line with the population and previous election?

WHY would there be FOUR Sequoia people hanging around a county so small that there were only 99 voting machines in the whole county? One would probably be expected the first time around with new machines. But FOUR?

Please check the numbers and PM me when you've got some of the answers. Maybe there's nothing to see, move along ... but it's sure worth checking further.

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jamboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 12:32 AM
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11. Elko, amazing. Well with the NV recount going UR in ground zero NVMojo.n/t
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 11:51 PM
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2. foreigners Madsens looking for ?
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 11:59 PM
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4. well, that is what I was thinking ....london, I'll be danged damned.
I actually met these people on election night.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 12:16 AM
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6. Madsen mentioned Brazil, Mexico, and Russia
I wonder if London's exit polls match their final tallies in those voting locales with Sequoia evote machines.

Any ideas out there?
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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 12:03 AM
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5. This has nothing to do with the General election........
.......It's an archived article from the primary and already people are jumping to conclusions.

Archives

Turnout around 30%

By DAVE WOODSON, Staff Writer


ELKO - Elko County voters did not show a great deal of enthusiasm for Tuesday's primary election. Only 31.2 percent of the registered voters cast ballots.

"We have done better," observed Elko County Clerk Win Smith.

She said there should be a larger turnout in November.

"We expect a lot more for the general (election) being the presidential election," Smith said. :eyes:

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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 12:18 AM
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7. the point being they were here on site assisting with the tabulation then
and some were back for the presidential. I am sorry I couldn't find an article from Nov. 2. Excuse me.

If you've read any of the posts here that talk about how these machines can be manipulated, this would make more sense.
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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:02 AM
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12. Oh, OK!
:evilgrin: These machines can be manipulated? :shrug:

Someone should look into that. :wow:

In the mean time, anyone attempting to gather and present evidence, and who wishes to be taken seriously in a place where we were exposing the flaws in the software months ahead of any of the "official" studies that were published, should carefully qualify what they present, and what it means in context to their argument. :)

If you wish to prove the point that 'foreign nationals' had access to tamper with this election, don't expect to get away with posting an article about a different election and not have someone call you on it. Consider it 'open source vetting' of information. If indeed these people returned for the general election and in any way performed the duties entrusted to elections officials or had unfettered access to the equipment, any proof you can offer is much appreciated.





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bj2110 Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:07 AM
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13. Jesus, ease off a little. It's a lead. Nothing more. We all know that.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 12:24 AM
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8. Suggest you send this to Cobb, Bev Harris & Brad Friedman.
"Halt, Audit, & Prove My Vote Counts, Now"
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Blue in the face Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 12:30 AM
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9. Good point
Is there anything that can be done to look at this anomaly? There was a statistical ananlysis done of NM a week or so by badc0der. I tried sending a PM to that poster, but I couldn't.

badcOder had done some excellent groundwork about the NM election. Can we keep this kicked until that person sees it? It looks to me like Elko County could use some supporting evidence.
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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:08 AM
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14. The Cobb campaign has requested full recounts in New Mexico.......
.......and Nevada. :evilgrin:

http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/WO0411/S00330.htm

Get involved if you can. :)
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