Q: Did media cover the Ukraine election as a sign?

to us? That they're wanting to be with us? I know, it's ridiculous, but why the hubbub? Surely, no one in the good ol' US of A would have known what the hell was happening over there. Lord knows they could have not coevered it since it was Thanksgiving. TFH? Mebbe...

What if it then stirred Jesse, that "it was time," and a news cycle begins? Thus, the stirrings of the beast; and thus, the end game?

Any thoughts?

...with the Ukraine voting fraud charges. It doesn't make sense unless they were trying psy-op knowing they had to somehow avert attention from our election aberrations.

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we would NEVER believe otherwise here at home.
It's so calculated, it's spooky. Their guilt, and need to help us past the grief they've caused by their lies...is sort of like the cheating husband who buys flowers for his wife to try and make up for his lies. As if flowers (or protests half-way across the globe) in any way really compensates for the violation of trust and power.

Also by allowing us to watch the protest from afar, we live it out vicariously through others, and don't have to have the 'messiness' of civil unrest here at home. For those Americans especially who deep down inside KNOW our Election was stolen, but can't admit it out loud (even to themselves), watching the Ukranian protest is cathartic.

The irony IS that the Soviet Union is supposed to be the ones with NO Democracy and citizen power...yet they know how to STAND UP for their beliefs,and to stick to their protest until results turn their way.
In effect, THEY are teaching us Democracy. Isn't it ironic?

I haven't been able to figure it out.

I'm not sure if in the media making a teeny stand, the * crowd jumped on the back of the galloping horse to show who was riding...falsely.
Or if it is complicity towards Our Leader, with no motive other than whoring.

Opposition candidate Viktor Yushchenko in the Ukrainian presidential elections is firmly backed by the Washington Consensus.

He is not only supported by the IMF and the international financial community, he also has the endorsement of The National Endowment for Democracy (NED) , the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace , Freedom House and George Soros' Open Society Institute , which played a behind the scenes role last year in helping "topple Georgia's president Eduard Shevardnadze by putting financial muscle and organizational metal behind his opponents." (New Statesman, 29 November 2004).

The NED has four affiliate institutes: The International Republican Institute (IRI) , the National Democratic Institute for International Affairs (NDI), the Center for International Private Enterprise (CIPE) , and the American Center for International Labor Solidarity (ACILS). These organizations are said to be "uniquely qualified to provide technical assistance to aspiring democrats worldwide." See IRI, http://www.iri.org/history.asp )

In the Ukraine, the NED and its constituent organizations fund Yushchenko's party Nasha Ukraina (Our Ukraine), it also finances the Kiev Press Club. In turn, Freedom House, together with The Independent Republican Institute (IRI) are involved in assessing the "fairness of elections and their results". IRI has staff present in "poll watching" in 9 oblasts (districts), and local staff in all 25 oblasts:

read the rest
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO411D.html

look at how everything immediately got SO MUCH WORSE right after the "election" maybe they're getting sick of being whores and getting ready to fall on their swords...

Weird or coordinated?

and maybe anthrax?

after that political capital crap, they'd had it.

After the election, the gloves came off only in the sense that everyone took sides, and now you know who's where. Sad, but true that we're so partisan. Now, the enemy of my enemy is my friend? Just wondering.

said just tonite, what's up with the media reporting so much on the Ukraine vote fraud. It's like they are doing some kind of transference thing...can't report on it here at home, so reporting heavily on it abroad. Doing my wishful thinking thing, and hoping it is setting the stage that if it deserves to be so well reported abroad, once it "breaks" here, in interest of fair reporting, can report it heavily at home. NOT. As I said, wishful thinking. I still tend to do the Anne Frank thing, believing people really want to be their better selves even when we are encircled by people of "evil" (and I wouldn't be talking about the terrorists abroad here).

as a small, Jewish girl, I feel her pain.

It's just surreal to see them so hopped up on it. Maybe it's a sign to JK that they won't be angry if he sticks a toe in?

can he say then? We'll have all his lovely quotes about counting all the votes and how terrible fraud in elections are to throw back at him. :-)

but I can't figure this out. No doubt MSM will cover it coming up. And in reality, I always assumed as the recount got closer, there would be more stirrings. But first silence on all of the "irregularities" then BOOM Ukraine. So weird.

the Ukraine is because the BU$H administration wants the other party to win, so they are pushing for it to be in the media. It's purely political, and our media seems to do pretty much what it's told to do.

makes a good point. Why get yourself on tape yelling about fair elections? My head she is spinning.

How many people know that recounts are happening in New Hampshire? Or that recounts will happen in Ohio, Nevada, and New Mexico?

I told someone today that "this election isn't over yet." They looked at me blankly and said "yes it is." All I could say at the time was "just wait. when it comes out, it will be huge."

Call me crazy but:
Seeing the tape of the guys beating up those voters in Ukraine on KO, I'm thinking we need some video right about now to go along with that Greens press release. Did anyone elese get that feeling?

Got video? :)

Don't make me laugh. These whores are only in it for money and power.

The Ukraine thing is being "spun" to Bushco's advantage. I read elsewhere on this forum it's because Yuschenko's support is from oil.

so except for those who work on Fox, and a few others who like their face on the teleprompter, most of them are probably going through some real inner turmoil right now. Particularly when they report stories about Ukranian news people who walked off the job, or who are fasting to protest the Election.
I think Jessie Jackson's statements yesterday will bring this to the forefront again. But we must still keep emailing the networks to criticize what they do wrong, and what we DO want to see. They're obviously getting more 'direction' from the Right, so we just need to counter it A LOT with our own input.

They covered it to prove that they care about Democracy. They can move on now and ignore the irregularities at home. We don't want any of that messy business here. The status quo is always best. You people are silly. They were like Ponchas Pilot washing his hands.

Everyone washed their hands. Colin Powell, John McCain...

I'll bet that some folks did it for the good on the country. No good can come out of this. This could lead to civil war. Everyone knows that the political process is corrupt. A little thing like the free and fair elections is not worth getting upset about. Democracy is over rated. I still have my job. Don't worry, be happy. It's the most wonderful time of the year.

I'm honestly fearful of what is going on. I know for a fact that some have been brainwashed. I have experienced such first hand, the changing of one's outlook to parrallell this adminst?

I swear I kid around alot but I am honestly starting to believe with utmost certainty that minds are being taken over and there is just not a dam thing we can do about it...

My God, if I ever begin to act like those people. Please slap me hard!

you seem to be made for one another. :)

I know, that's where I am, but, WHY? Carolab says it's to get *'s guy in. Fine, but why tell Mr. & Mrs. America about it? They don't know from vote fraud. It never would enter their consciousness. So, you think they're washing their hands, but why so publically?

(slap) Snap out of it!

I gotta tell you, tinfoil hat or no.

I think KO showing the Ukraine voter attack footage tonight was also a sign to get some footage out there. MM, where are you? Paging a portly filmaker with video of voting horrors, preferably violent...White Courtesy Phone.

There's been no video of this to show in the slimy meeedjia. We need home movies.

Where is Bev on the video of the Volusia showdown? You would think that would have showed up somewhere by now if she wanted to raise an immediate stink.

I wonder if the lawsuit keeps her from talking about it. Perhaps an accidental leak could be arranged.

If it bleeds it leads.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6623192/

If they're using "strategy" they can't be too happy...

I can think of a few things. One is that Colin Powell was engaging in some outgoing sabotage, not unlike his pre-election day comment that we are losing the war in Iraq.

Another is that the Administration is so convinced of its own success in the election that they feel they can grandstand the issue to rub our noses in it.

Actually, when I think about it, both are pretty likely.

They are the drunk dancing to the bullets in the barroom floor.

If ANYONE is scheming it is Putin for making the election an in your face imitation of Bushco, knowing full well that the American interference there in the first place was throwing down the gauntlet. Chavez derisively did the same, interestingly enough facing good old fashioned CIA coups and election tampering. Nothing but the worst for our good neighbors to the south.

If Kerry had been in full contest after Nov.2 this would have made sense. Instead we have this extraordinary disconnect. Yet the GOP are still hypocrites, noting new there. The Democrats who were involved in election tampering from Serbia on are silent- as usual, or backing the contestant without irony.

Irony, apparently is totally absent in the leadership of both major parties. It only exists for those knowing and serving the interest of truth and democracy. Some like to claim that a Republic is led by elite representatives, chosen some which way or the other. Well, this republic must be dead as a doornail because all we have on top is moronic hypocrisy and anti-democratic conspiracies. I hate to think what ordinary people might be like running things!

The Putin thing is so true. These cold warriors are undoing the democratization of Russia with reciprocal underhanded interference and cheap shots when no one's looking. Our calling Putin's bluff there can only backfire here. Look for the Ukrainians (and the Russian media) to call attention to our electoral woes. Remember, the Internet is an international medium.