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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 11:47 AM
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This is extraordinary info
Edited on Tue Nov-30-04 12:11 PM by Twist_U_Up
Solid analysis and IN DEPT anylysis for how the vote was suppressed and that terrible F word is backed up with graphs

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/11/30/71935/724

HOLY CRAP BATMAN
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paula777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 11:56 AM
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1. This makes a good case for voter suppression, however ....
I believe hacking was how they won
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 12:28 PM
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11. Give them a little credit --
It could be vote supression as well as hacking. After all, they're the big tent, right?
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Kralizec Donating Member (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 11:57 AM
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2. You may want to put a title tells what the story is about.... n/t
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 11:58 AM
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3. Real Nice Analysis By A Credible Source
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 12:02 PM
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4. Your link proves voter suppression/fraud -in the Ukraine its new election
Edited on Tue Nov-30-04 12:02 PM by papau
while in the US the State media says "get over it"

From your link

"The Free Press reported that Franklin County Board of Elections Director Matt Damschroder deliberately withheld voting machines from predominantly black Democratic wards in Columbus, and dispersed some of the machines to affluent suburbs in Franklin County.

Damschroder is the former Executive Director of the Franklin County Republican Party. Sources close to the Board of Elections told the Free Press that Damschroder and Ohio’s Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell met with President George W. Bush in Columbus on Election Day.

Thus I conclude that the withholding of voting machines from predominantly Democratic wards in the City of Columbus cost John Kerry upwards of 17,000 votes. A more detailed calculation could be done on a precinct by precinct basis, but that is not necessary here. The purpose is to illustrate the magnitude of the conspiracy.

Matt Damschroder did not act alone. There are 74 wards and 472 precincts in Columbus, Ohio. It is not possible for one person to have delivered all the voting machines, and it is unlikely that nobody else was involved in planning where to deliver them. Anyone who associated with Mr. Damschroder on or shortly before Election Day should be investigated for possible complicity.

Richard Hayes Phillips, Ph.D.
4 Fisher Street
Canton, New York 13617
(315) 379-0820
richardhayesphillips@yahoo.com "

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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 12:29 PM
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12. Hi Neighbor
Syracuse area
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:32 PM
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18. Hi there - one heck of a ride to Boston from Syracuse! :-)
Good to have you posting!

:toast:

:-)
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Rzrbk Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 12:29 PM
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13. One minor point ...
"deliberately withheld voting machines from predominantly black Democratic wards in Columbus, and dispersed some of the machines to affluent suburbs in Franklin County ... Damschroder and Ohio’s Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell met with President George W. Bush in Columbus on Election Day.
"

Wouldn't the voting machines have already had to been in place before Election Day?
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 12:32 PM
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14. easy
voter registration in precints. look at the new registrations #s and compare to last years #s a boom you have an Idea how many people will show up where.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:32 PM
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19. "Blackwell met with President George W. Bush in Columbus on Election Day."
on another thread last night (discussion of Keith Olbermann show), we were trying to confirm this--but as far as I know i has not been confirmed.
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:42 PM
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20. lol oops I thought you signed it lol
don`t mind me my mind is fried.

although Mass isn`t far were still neighbors lol
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IAMREALITY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 12:03 PM
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5. Thank You Twist!
Great Link with Great Info!

Fucked up though ain't it?

:hi:
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 12:07 PM
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6. extremely frustrating
we must organize check out the link I found in that thread

http://freepress.org/eforum/viewforum.php?f=1&sid=8ee91c3dcb8e6bc44230218e376f7a73
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tinfoil_beret Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 12:15 PM
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7. This is the smoking gun for Columbus.
I'm sure you'd find the same exact situation in other cities. (I've read that Cincinatti was atrocious.)

This evidence alone should disqualify Ohio's electoral votes.
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tinfoil_beret Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 12:19 PM
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9. Why are the Glibs messing around with Nevada?
This would clinch it!
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pk_du Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 12:15 PM
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8. Wow!.......and you know what?..
Edited on Tue Nov-30-04 12:15 PM by pk_du
This man is Matt Damschroder.





And he is quoted as saying this;

"Our job is to make sure the voters on Election Day don’t see or feel anything different other than longer lines. If that happens, I’ll know we’ve done a good job."


...I guess he "knows he did a GREAT job"...seeing how those lines were Sooooo long in the right precincts...wink,wink.

http://www.dispatch.com/election/election-local.php?story=dispatch/2004/11/01/20041101-B1-04.html
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 12:21 PM
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10. Interesting tidbit
Edited on Tue Nov-30-04 12:22 PM by Twist_U_Up
"He’s firmly behind Bush today, too, although from time to time conservatives haven’t been so sure about him."

could this be why Bush made his visit ?
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WiseFawn Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 12:56 PM
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15. The biggest Kerry ward
17 D, is where my daughter and I voted. I gave my affidavit. There were so many problems in just that one ward. In this neighborhood, we were given flyers that would've sent us to the wrong voting place. The lines were terrible. I don't think there was one voting protection worker there. There were people yelling and trying to borrow cellphones to call in complaints. The elderly and disabled had a terrible time standing in the long lines. It was incredible there.
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 12:59 PM
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16. who was investigating for you to give an affidavit ?
I`ve always wondered who follows up these reports .

Did you call them ? What questions ?
In other words how did you get to the point of an affidavit?
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:09 PM
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17. kick
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budkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 02:12 PM
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21. Keep this kicked
Kick ass!
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