Cuyahoga County Provisional ballots update

mostly_lurking

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Tue Nov-30-04 01:47 PM
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Cuyahoga County Provisional ballots update

This is on the Ohio Vote Suppression website:

"According to elections officials, 16,058 out of 25,309 provisional ballots were accepted. The results are Bush +5,982, Kerry + 15,224. Note, the number of provisionals received is slightly higher than that used by the Plain Dealer (25,309 versus 25,302)."

What's confusing to me is how can Bush gain 5,982 and Kerry gain 15,224 (total of 21,206) if only 16,058 ballots were counted? What am I missing here?

http://www.ohvotesuppression.blogspot.com/

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jsascj

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Tue Nov-30-04 01:48 PM
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1. Guess they added 4000

Edited on Tue Nov-30-04 01:49 PM by jsascj

more votes to Bush ...again!

You'd think that they would be more creative this time, huh?

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Stand and Fight

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Tue Nov-30-04 02:00 PM
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2. Largest Counties

I'm not all that familiar with Ohio's counties. What are the largest 5 counties in Ohio and how do they break (Dem. v. Rep.)?

Thanks.

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righteous1

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Tue Nov-30-04 04:18 PM
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8. If your interested in how many ballots

there are left to count, the answer is ~22,000

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Karmadillo

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Tue Nov-30-04 02:42 PM
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3. Here are the figures from the Plain Dealer

Maybe the vote suppression site calculated incorrectly?

http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/110181082962790.xml

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Officially, the count of provisional ballots stands at 16,750 accepted and 8,552, or 34 percent, rejected. Sen. John Kerry widened his margin over President George W. Bush in the county from 217,638 to 226,880 in the official count of the race that made Ohio a nail-biter.

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Lisabtrucking

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Tue Nov-30-04 02:59 PM
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4. None of the numbers add up

These people don't know how to count. I already found those mistakes.
I don't believe this information.

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jmknapp

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Tue Nov-30-04 03:34 PM
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5. 16,750 accepted ; Kerry widened margin from 217,638 to 226,880

Edited on Tue Nov-30-04 03:36 PM by jmknapp

Well, that means that Kerry's margin widened by 9,242. If all that came from the provisionals, the 16,750 would break down as 12,996 (78%) of the provisionals for Kerry and 3,754 for Bush.

But I suppose (or hope) that they cleaned up some other precincts too, such as where Badnarik got hundreds of votes.

It will be very interesting to see the final certified totals by precinct and compare to the unofficial results released Nov. 3rd. We will see just where voters were made to fill out provisional ballots (and where probably the 8,552 were thrown out).

But it broad strokes, it will surely be the minority precincts, given a close to 80% rate for Kerry.

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paula777

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Tue Nov-30-04 03:38 PM
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6. Maybe they are including absentee ballots w/ the provisional ballots

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righteous1

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Tue Nov-30-04 04:04 PM
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7. That is it exactly....absantee overseas ballots

are included even though they don't referance that

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