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Tom Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 04:36 AM
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How about a Fellini post?
Has anybody here ever seen his last movie, "Voices of the Moon"?

I have not but I heard it has Roberto Begini in it and is supposed to be very surreal...
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 05:02 AM
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1. ahh, fellini, ain't he fun!
ever read "juliet of the spirits"? that was fun. tried watching 'la dolce vita' but school kept interrupting my viewing.
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Tom Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 05:20 AM
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2. yeah Fellini was OK I guess...
he was only my favorite film maker and director....
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 05:41 AM
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3. My favorite is Satyricon (sp?)
I've seen several of his films and always want to like them but they're hard to identify with. I love the visual/mythic quality of Satyricon.

I finally got my own copy and got depressed at a cow (or something) sacrific scene that I hadn't remembered. Luckily I stumbled across a documentary on Fellini at the video rental store and they dealt with that scene in depth. I'm not sure if the animal cruelty laws were in place at that time but it was faked with drugs and they were talking about how they had to film it with the animal totally still because that's the way death was perceived, although in reality there is movement after death. And, they showed the live animal after the scene.



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Metatron Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:12 AM
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4. If you haven't seen it, I recommend Ciao, Federico!
A documentary about the making of Satyricon and Italian filmmaking. It was fascinating watching him work. Sharon Tate and Roman Polanski show up in it, too.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 02:59 PM
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5. that may have been the one I saw
Don't remember too much about it. I was fixated on the cow scene, kept rewinding and replaying, pausing.

Is that the one where in one scene he is pontificating and a bucket falls onto his head? It ran on TV a long time ago.
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Metatron Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 11:51 PM
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6. I'm not sure if the scene you describe is in Ciao Federico! or
The Magic of Fellini. It has been a while since I have watched the docs.
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Tom Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 04:16 AM
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7. truthfully,
I do not remember the cow slaughtering scene from Satyricon, I have to rewatch it again...I also have Ciao, Federico on tape and will have to rewatch that one as well...

Satyricon is full of great imagery but it's not my favorite film by him, I prefer more Juliet of the Spirits, the Nights of Cabira, La Strada, La Dolce Vita, 8 1/2, the Toby Dammitt segment from Spirits of the Dead, as well as a few of his later works like Ginger and Fred, City of Women, Amarcord, and Roma (Casanova is the only film of his that left me cold but I saw it only on a crappy bootleg video that was hard to watch)...

Now if you want to get into the subject of animals being slaughtered on film I would suggest avoiding the Taviani Brothers film The Tree of Wooden Clogs...there is a scene there in which a pig is actually slaughtered barrow style with it's guts being scooped out while it is still squealing in agony. I was not expecting that and that scene had me curling up in the fetal position in my theatre chair with my hands over my ears trying to blot it out. It was excrutiating and while I found watching that film entirely worthwhile that one scene is the one that sticks in my mind...
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Metatron Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 08:26 AM
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8. Oh, I agree completely.
La Dolce Vita is my favorite Fellini flick. It could easily be that I walked out of the room during the violent scenes in the doc - violence really bothers me so I tend to avoid it whenever possible.

Here are a couple of films that were part of a Fellini restrospective earlier this year. I haven't seen them but they sound great (from http://egyptiantheatre.com/archive1999/2004/fellini.htm)

"Walt Disney & Fellini," 1987, 30 min. Dir. Vincenzo Mollica. An interview filmed in 1987 at the Lunapark of Rome (akin to Universal Studios) on occasion of the 50th anniversary of Walt Disney’s SNOW WHITE AND THE SEVEN DWARFS. In reality, there is a preparatory script that took 10 days to be realized by Vincenzo Mollica (also the interviewer, and lifetime friend of Fellini), and Fellini himself, so that everything looked casual. This interview is a rarity because it is the only document in which Fellini deeply analyzes the work and style of another filmmaker, and his relationship with him. Disney also realized several sketches to illustrate Fellini’s LA STRADA, as it was his intention to make a cartoon. Those drawings were stolen from Fellini's home, but the characters of LA STRADA have long survived in the Mickey Mouse cartoons.

"La Tivu’ Di Fellini," 2003, Istituto Luce/Alberto Grimaldi, 38 min. Dir. Tati Sanguinetti. During the shooting of GINGER & FRED in 1985, Fellini directed a number of satirical segments parodying Italian television, quiz shows and advertising, which were intended to be spread throughout the movie, but were later cut. "These crumbs, these shavings, these fragments," as Fellini affectionately called them, were finally rescued by Tati Sanguinetti and the Istituto Luce in 2003, and are assembled here.
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