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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 06:02 PM
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Where God meets big business — and it's soon coming to a church near you
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,11069-2519752,00.html

Tom Creekin Willow Creek, Illinois



American Evangelical Christians scare the hell out of secular Britons and, while their reputation may be unfair, it has been long in the making and is reinforced by some truth.
First came the monstrous sexual hypocrisy and fraud of Jim Bakker, then the foaming homophobia of Jerry Falwell — whose rants have included declaring Aids to be “the wrath of God” and saying that Hillary Clinton was more hated by conservative voters than Satan.



And more recently the European Left has been concerned about an American Religious Right bent on ensuring that the Book of Revelation’s apocalyptic prophecies come true through the current President’s policy on Iraq, Israel and the Middle East.

On the other side of the Atlantic, Evangelicals have a very different, but also damaging, image. The damp-palmed jeans-clad vicar who plays guitar in a Christian rock band does not scare anyone but fashion writers.

Somewhere between these two caricatures there may be an answer to the riddle about why Britain and America, nations with history, language and culture in common, have grown so far apart on religion.

That answer may just be found in Willow Creek Church, near Chicago, recently rated in a survey including 2,000 pastors as the most influential of any in America. It has grown from virtually nothing into an Evangelical megachurch with weekend congregations of 20,000, assets of $150 million (£76 million) and an annual turnover of $26 million. If that sounds like a business, that is because it is run like one: Harvard and Stanford MBA s handle the day-to-day management.


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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 06:15 PM
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1. And the very thing they don't realize is their undoing
... that you can't serve both God and mammon (money).

Thing is, God doesn't require a megachurch-- man does... makes 'em feel useful.
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Me-Oh-My Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 08:05 PM
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5. Its the same mentality as war
bigger is better.
This is NOT the true way of a religion though.

Tax the shit out of these megachurches.
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 06:37 PM
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2. Didn't Jesus say "It is easier for a camel to walk through the eye of a needle
than it is for a rich man to get into heaven?"
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 06:55 PM
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3. They Scare the Hell Out of Some Secular Americans Too!
American Evangelical Christians scare the hell out of secular Britons


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The Sushi Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 07:08 PM
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4. All those Fundies can be summed up in one word...
Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult Cult

Nuff said!
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 11:37 PM
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6. nothing but money changers in the temple courts...
they will receive their just reward.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 11:36 AM
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7. Religon, Inc. nt
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