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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 07:29 AM
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Really, what is sacriligious about Cavallaro's My Sweet Lord?
The name is dumb. Chocolate Jesus is more to the point. But what is insulting to Christians about a nude Christ made of Chocolate? I really don't understand that. I think it's kind of beautiful, myself.


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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 07:35 AM
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1. The freak-out quotient always runs high when Jesus is depicted in
purposely non-traditional mediums.

I remember too well the dust-up over Serrano's PISS CHRIST some years back. Jesse Helms was at the forefront of that controversy, whipping the indignant crowd into a frenzy over public funding for decadent art, etc.

This sculpture looks downright reverent to me. There's a eucharistic vibe to Jesus the Sacrificial Lamb anyway, which isn't even a Christian idea, so chocolate is just one more medium to me.
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bbernardini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 07:37 AM
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2. It wasn't made of white chocolate.
;)
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uberblonde Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 07:37 AM
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3. I think it's the penis.
There are some people who are probably uncomfortable with the thought that Jesus was ever naked. Plus, he's not circumcised, and that's downright unChristian! LOL
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Johnny Noshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 07:43 AM
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5. Ding!
We have a winner. They love death destruction and mayhem against " the enemies of the Lord" but anything that hints at sexuality - oh my we can't have that now. EVERYTHING bothers these people.

"There is only one blasphemy, and that is the refusal to experience joy." Paul Rudnick
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 07:50 AM
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6. Johnny, I love your quotation there by Paul Rudnick. I hadn't heard it
and it's really strong.

A keeper.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 08:27 AM
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9. You mean dong, don't you?
:hide:
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Johnny Noshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 05:06 PM
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21. Ding...dong
a penis by any other name would'st scare them all the same :evilgrin:
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 07:13 PM
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25. Over forty years ago, the church I attended passed out copies of an article ...
... about a metal sculpture of a naked crucified Christ, and the article explicitly discussed the penis -- what people had said about the depiction and how the sculptor responded to the reactions. I read it, thought about it, and concluded there were more interesting things to think about ...
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 07:37 AM
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4. i dunno. the penis?
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 08:28 AM
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11. You'd think people who believe Jesus was a real man
would have no problem with a depiction of his real manhood.

:eyes:
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 01:52 PM
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17. Is he circumcised in the representation?
Otherwise, they're saying he wasn't a Jew or wasn't a faithful Jew.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 03:42 PM
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20. If he isn't, it's easy enough to make him one.
;)

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Broadslidin Donating Member (949 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 08:07 AM
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7. Complementary Rear Shot of "My Sweet Lord"....! BBC World News
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6513155.stm
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 08:24 AM
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8. I think the main problem is...
Edited on Sat Mar-31-07 08:25 AM by TwoSparkles
...that Christians don't like their chocolate with nuts.

(I'm sorry! I'm sorry! Put me on the hell express! I
know I will be punished for that joke, but it was just
too easy! I'll be watching for lightning strikes!).
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 08:29 AM
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12. ...
:spray:
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Broadslidin Donating Member (949 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 08:41 AM
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14. "I went down into the Valley of Nuts to see the Fruits of the Valley..."
Song of Songs 6:11
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 08:27 AM
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10. it competes with the wafer cartel
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 08:33 AM
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13. Apologies for misspelling "sacrilegious."
:blush:
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 08:44 AM
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15. It's not sacrilegious...
It's SACRI-LICIOUS!

TlalocW
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 02:29 PM
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18. ROFL!
:rofl:
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 01:25 PM
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27. Or...
Edited on Sun Apr-01-07 01:38 PM by PassingFair
SUCRE-LIGIOUS

:evilgrin:
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 09:20 AM
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16. Because it's about religion, which is inherently illogical.
Butter lambs for Easter are ok, candy makers have offered chocolate crucifixes for years, and every Sunday Catholics experience the "miracle" of transubstantiation then eat their god. Any impartial observer would say Cavallaro's sculpture is the same.
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 02:35 PM
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19. Did they react the same way about Cheesus?


If not, is it because cheese is Hole-y?



Sorry, couldn't resist. :spank:
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Johnny Noshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 05:10 PM
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22. Ah Blessed are the cheese makers.
nt.
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 05:15 PM
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23. Earth to Christians: Jesus had a penis. Grow the hell up.
Edited on Sat Mar-31-07 05:15 PM by varkam
Good grief some of the folks getting bent out of shape about this are just about as bad as Muslims.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 06:36 PM
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24. Why is Bill Donohue pissed off about this??
WILLIAM DONAHUE, PRESIDENT, CATHOLIC LEAGUE: Well, of course, asking the public to come in and eat Jesus, with his genitals exposed, during Holy Week I think would be self-explanatory.


Um, Bill? Doesn't every Catholic church in the world ask people to come in and eat jesus?

More at http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/03/31/the-daily-donohue-rantings-of-a-lunatic-bully-over-a-chocolate-jesus/
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toddaa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 07:20 PM
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26. The Lord's Penis and the Crucifixion
When you die by crucifixion, you die of asphyxiation. It's my understanding that during asphyxiation, the male sex organ engorges and sometimes the victim will ejaculate at the moment of death. At least, that's what I read in Naked Lunch. Where's Old Bill Lee when you need him?
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 06:10 PM
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28. I like you more all the time.
I LOVE Burroughs. He would have loved this chocolate jesus.

I think the satirical nature of the capital punishment bit you refer to is one of Bill's best satires. Have you heard any of his spoken word stuff?
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 06:43 PM
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29. His film short
Ah Pook is Here, is online:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C5XuylNFLo

Hallucinogenic and unsettling, as you'd expect.
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toddaa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 08:55 PM
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30. I used to have a bunch of recordings with his stuff on it
Mostly on various artist recordings that had a hodge podge of experimental and industrial artists, with which he often worked with. My favorite was his collaboration with Bill Laswell's Material, which I forget the name of. Sadly, my massive LP and 7" collection died during the floods of '93.
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