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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 07:31 AM
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Britain's blasphemy law no longer sacred
After a teddy bear incident and much debate, the House of Lords votes to abolish it.

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Thus began a period of collective soul-searching on free speech and secularism, traditional values and the church that anoints Britain's queen. It culminated Wednesday in a 148-87 vote in the House of Lords to abolish the laws on blasphemy after a wrenching, two-hour debate.

"It is crystal-clear that the offenses of blasphemy and blasphemous libel are unworkable in today's society," Kay Andrews said in introducing the government-backed amendment, adding that "as long as this law remains on the statute books, it hinders the UK's ability to challenge oppressive blasphemy laws in other jurisdictions."
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Wednesday's vote in the upper house of Parliament was an amendment to a broad proposed law on criminal justice that must still go back to the House of Commons for approval before taking effect. Still, the vote was seen as a crucial hurdle in a process that is now all but assured.

"The law on blasphemy will be abolished. And good riddance, is what we say," Terry Sanderson, president of the National Secular Society, said in an interview. "It's an unusable law, as it stands at the moment, and in the past it's been a very cruel law."

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-fg-blasphemy6mar06,1,1925105.story?ctrack=2&cset=true


Hooray. It's been sitting there as a stupid law (with a rather vague past) for ages, and not long ago, people said it was going to be too difficult to actually get rid of it. But it turns out to being going with very little fanfare at all, in the end. Some of the Church of England bishops who get automatic seats in the House of Lords (another relic of theocracy that needs changing in Britain) did vote to get rid of the law:

Dr Sentamu did not vote in the division to the amendment. The Bishops of Durham and Portsmouth both voted with the Government; while the Bishops of Chester, Rochester, and Southwell & Nottingham all voted against the amendment.

http://www.churchtimes.co.uk/content.asp?id=53079
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Wabbajack_ Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 07:34 AM
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1. The house of lords itself needs to go
and the Queen too while we're at it.
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Glorfindel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 07:44 AM
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2. Of course they should; then the UK could govern itself like Chicago
or Illinois or, say, Mississippi. Three shining examples of democracy without a Queen and without a House of Lords, which, by the way, is just a bit more democratic than the US Senate.
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:02 AM
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4. The Chicago Machine could never have worked
Edited on Fri Mar-07-08 11:31 AM by genie_weenie
well enough to create the greatest modern sewer system like http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/historic_figures/bazalgette_joseph.shtml">Sir Jospeh Bazalgate designed for London.

As for Blasphemy laws, well they're outmoded. Religions are man made constructs and ideas and as such they are not immune to ridicule and criticism and it's time they get more inspection.
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Wabbajack_ Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:31 AM
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5. Easy dude
I don't like Haley Barbour either but morons in your state elected him. Monarchy, even as an archaic constitutional device is wrong. FYI I don't care for the US Senate either but just because our government (which by the way I didn't create) is fucked up too doesn't mean I don't have the right to criticize other whack governments like one's with QUEENS and HOUSES OF LORDS in the year 2008.
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:36 AM
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7. There's nothing undemocratic about Britain's monarchy (although there is about the House of Lords)
The Queen doesn't exercise any power - her role is purely ceremonial. There's nothing undemocratic about her existence.

The House of Lords does exercise power, though, and that's a much more serious issue.
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:34 AM
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6. The House of Lords should be stripped of power, but I'd oppose abolishing it.

I think it's a link to the past worth preserving, and a good way to honour people, but I don't think it should have any political power.

Likewise the Queen, although she already doesn't have any power.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 07:51 AM
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3. Wonderful news.
The march of secularism carries on.
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