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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 03:13 PM
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Lust and pride: the vices dividing the sexes
Men and women sin in very different ways, according to Monsignor Wojciech Giertych, personal theologian to Pope Benedict XVI and the papal household. There is “no sexual equality when it comes to sin”, Giertych wrote last week in L’Osservatore Romano, the Vatican newspaper.

His views were formed by his own experience of the confessional and were supported by an analysis of confessional data carried out by 95-year-old Roberto Busa, an impressively tech-savvy Jesuit priest who has also carried out a computerised study of the works of St Thomas Aquinas.

The seven deadly sins are: lust, gluttony, avarice, sloth, anger, envy and pride (as opposed to chastity, temperance, charity, diligence, patience, kindness and humility). Last year, however, the Vatican suggested these might be supplemented with some new sins particularly relevant to the modern age – namely genetic modification, human experimentation, polluting the environment, social injustice, causing poverty, financial gluttony and the taking or selling of drugs (I’m not really seeing how smoking a doobie offends the Lord in a way comparable to deliberately causing poverty, but anyway . . . ).

According to Busa and Giertych’s Vatican-endorsed findings, if you’re a man, then your number one sin is lust, followed by gluttony – and then sloth, since by that point you’re probably too sated, in both senses, to move.

If you’re a woman, the prime sin is pride, followed by envy and then anger, which, I must say, doesn’t paint a very attractive picture. No wonder men sit around eating a lot and watching porn.

<snip> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/india_knight/article5780316.ece
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 03:15 PM
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1. Um, yah. Catholic priests pontificatiing (!) about sin. Right.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 03:18 PM
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2. Isn't it the power pyramid that he sits at the top of that divides the sexes?
:think:
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 03:26 PM
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3. The obscession with sin
comes from many places. I can only imagine the pope's demons.
But why not focus on the call to move forward with loving thy neighbor?

Not my faith, Christianity, so I should not judge too harshly.
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comrade snarky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 03:33 PM
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4. Tell me more of men, women and relationships
Mr. celibate weirdo
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 03:37 PM
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5. Do people really tell the truth during 'confession?'
It doesn't seem scientific in any way to cite 'confession' as a source.

:shrug:
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dustbunnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 04:12 PM
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6. I admit I'm often envious of men's capacity for gluttony and sloth.


:rofl:
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 05:37 PM
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9. Yeah!
Must be nice to just feel totally guiltless about having someone else always cook for you, etc.! ...As a guest at a relative's house, let's say, it's so odd to not pitch in and help... but to do that every day??!! How very weird!
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 08:49 AM
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11. How very weird! ???
Is it as weird as spending half an hour every day painting your face and fixing your hair?

That's just bizarre!
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frebrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 04:21 PM
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7. What the hell does he know about either women _or_ men who live normal lives and.....
talk about one-size-fits-all generalizations.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 05:05 PM
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8. "analysis of confessional data"????? the priests keep records?????
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 08:06 PM
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12. On their iPopes.
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patriotvoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 01:12 PM
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17. Yes, extensive records on many subjects spanning decades and sometimes centuries.
Priests are God's scriveners, after all.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 01:21 PM
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18. They also like to keep
track of where all the skeletons and gold are buried.
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Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 08:38 AM
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10. I am in favor of
lust and sloth...
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Silent3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 08:02 AM
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13. What about lust for sloths?


I mean, is that hot or what!? :)
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Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 10:48 AM
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14. I don't
lust after sloths...

not my bag...:shrug:
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moggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 11:54 AM
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15. You've got to feel sorry for sloths
I mean, they've got one of the deadly sins built right in: what chance do they have? They get out of bed - or not, as the case may be - and straight away they're sinning. It doesn't seem fair.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 02:19 PM
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16. My ex had toenails like those.
He didn't think it was a big deal until I threatened to bring a tool grinder home with me (Dremels weren't on the market yet).
















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