John Paul on sainthood fast track

ROME, Italy -- Pope Benedict XVI has said he is putting his predecessor John Paul II on the fast track to possible sainthood in the Roman Catholic Church.

The pope said Friday he had dispensed with rules that normally impose a five-year waiting period before beatification -- the last step before sainthood -- can even start.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/05/13/pope.sainthood/index.html
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I don't pretend to understand how the Catholic Church works and what Saints are supposed to do, but I do get the impression that tradition and a deliberate pace are important elements. Apparently not any more.

of millions of people from AIDs, and allows pedophiles a home in the church and offers them new territory to plunder when they are disclosed is a saint. Right.

...for lil boys and the priests that love them

:eyes:

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4543501.stm

TheoCon-speak for "we know he aintgottaprayer but hell, we'll sure find them miracles to prove our point"

make him a saint today

I'm deifying my dog Henry who died Tuesday. It will mean the same thing.

I lost my senior dog a month ago Tuesday and I am still "dealing with it". I found one more dust bunny of her fur in the corner this morning. I hope you are holding up well.

My condolences for your loss. Life really does suck sometimes. It will get better, I've been here before. But I sure don't like it.

Peace

I thought it meant that you had magic powers from God and had used them to cure the lame or blind or whatever.

of miraculous cures very soon.

admittedly, I'm not completely familiar with the process, but if it can be "hurried" and the rules "dispensed with", I'm confused as to how it could be considered anything other than a popularity contest in THIS instance.

It will make it much easier for Benedict to follow John Paul's
traditionalist agenda, and keep rolling back Vatican II - "in his
memory", of course.

It confirms my suspicion that Benedict had something to do with the
Santo Subito demonstration during JP's funeral.

And one of JPII's least-admirable legacies, I think, is the total trivializing of the concept of sainthood and the process of becoming a saint. At least to me canonization should not be seen as a mere "reward" for a life well-lived, and the process should not be short-circuited because a candidate happens to be widely popular.

It's making a joke of the reasons for sainthood.

:eyes:

He had been performing for 25 years, so he is a classic.

like in the nba?

Must be pretty desperate by now.

Their greatest feat so far has been to persuade TheoCons in the Senate that George Galloway is responsible for the Iraq Oil-for-Fraud scam.

But Galloway has already proved in the UK libel courts that this little gem of disinformation is a no-no.

My best bet: the masterminding of 9/11 and the Oil-for-Fraud scam were conceived in the same hellhole of Theo-Con spawning ground.

Whatever next? Sainthood for all those pedophile priests who have been shielded by the Vatican for the last 50 years?

but now they will need to figure one out. I heard that his bringing down communism could be considered a miracle.

When we see the virgin Mary on Toast make the news, one would think that a miracle or three from the guy with the big hat would at least get a little ink.

and overpopulation

The Reaganization of The Roman Catholic Church

All Hail Saint Murderer of Those Who are Forbidden Condoms.

All Hail Saint Subjugator of Women.

Papal Bull(shit)

Kind of ironic for an institution that "thinks in centuries" (as many have said) to have a fast track...

Hmmm, indeed. :eyes:

Pope Puts John Paul II on Fast Track to Sainthood


By JASON HOROWITZ
Published: May 13, 2005
ROME, May 13 - Pope Benedict XVI said today that he had decided to forego the rules of the Roman Catholic Church and immediately put his predecessor, Pope John Paul II, on the road to potential sainthood.

Pope Benedict named the Archbishop of San Francisco, William Joseph Levada, above, as the new prefect for the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith.

The pope's announcement effectively dispensed with a church law that requires a five-year waiting period before beatification cases can be opened, and thus put John Paul, who made more saints than all other popes combined, on the sainthood fast track.

Benedict's brief statement, made in Latin to a group of priests gathered at St John's Basilica on the 24th anniversary of the assassination attempt against John Paul, also set off a long round of applause.

That outpouring of affection is indicative of the wave of advocacy for John Paul's beatification, the last step before sainthood, that has swept over Rome and much of the Church since his death on April


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Why an all-powerful God needs saints to do things for him. The only benefit I've seen in it (for the Catholic church) is it made it easier to convert New World Indian tribes to Christianity by replacing their gods with their equivalent in Catholic Saint-hood.

TlalocW

I hate the new Pope! What a joke he is making of all real Saints! If there even ARE ANY SAINTS!The Catholic Church is going down the tubes and it is plainly obvious people who run it have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH SO CALLED CHRISTIANITY. Gee I wonder how many SO CALLED SAINTS oppress women and gay people and call themselves infallible! What a CRIME. Go to hell so called PopeBenedick!

I bet it was something lame, that's why we never saw him use them...Heck, I bet even the Wonder Twins could've taken him...

I personally liked John Paul. He was the world's strongest advocate for world peace, and he was a very consistent man on all issues. We as liberals didn't agree with many of his positions (I didn't), but he had a very good heart, and was a decent human being who did alot. He did more than most popes could possibly dream of.

Nonetheless, six weeks is way too soon. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve sainthood, but they should wait a bit and do it right.

And to all you openly insulting JP2's legacy, maybe it's time for all of you to think of what it takes to change the basic social teachings of the RCC, which have remained fairly consistent for the last 2,000 years. I'll tell ya, it ain't easy. JP2 was about as progressive as any pope we'll get in the near future. Yes, he was a social conservative. But what did you expect? Plus, he supported economic justice, and he's with us also in coming out against Bush*'s illegal war.
As to the miracle aspect, I think there's no problem as far as that goes. But the Vatican needs to seriously cut miracles out of the definition, and just be one who is extroadinarily devoted to God, and doing good works as a sign of belief in Him. We would certainly have a LOT more saints, but is that a bad thing? At least there would be enough bones to put in the altars of churches.

does not make up for the deaths of millions of people in third world countries.