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Tafiti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 04:19 PM
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Creation Museum Sparks Evolution Debate
PETERSBURG, Ky. - Ken Ham has spent 11 years working on a museum that poses the big question — when and how did life begin? Ham hopes to soon offer an answer to that question in his still-unfinished Creation Museum in northern Kentucky.

The $25 million monument to creationism offers Ham's view that God created the world in six, 24-hour days on a planet just 6,000 years old. The largest museum of its kind in the world, it hopes to draw 600,000 people from the Midwest and beyond in its first year.

Ham, 53, isn't bothered that his literal interpretation of the Bible runs counter to accepted scientific theory, which says Earth and its life forms evolved over billions of years.

Ham said the museum is a way of reaching more people along with the Answers in Genesis Web site, which claims to get 10 million page views per month and his "Answers ... with Ken Ham" radio show, carried by more than 725 stations worldwide.

"People will get saved here," Ham said of the museum. "It's going to fire people up. If nothing else, it's going to get them to question their own position of what they believe."

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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1894&e=2&u=/ap/20050522/ap_on_sc/creation_museum
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 04:21 PM
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1. why do stories on these nut jobs
it only encourages them

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Tafiti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 04:27 PM
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2. No doubt.
And I can't believe his website gets 10,000,000 page views per month. That's just scary.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 10:44 AM
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11. 10 million?
that can't be right

or maybe it's just people like us who go there and just shake our heads in disbelief and then go back because we couldn't believe the crap is actually put out there
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funflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 02:49 AM
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13. Data on Alexa.com suggests nowhere near 10 million page views per
month. But, what they hey. So long as they're lying for God....
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 04:27 PM
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3. ^00,000 people the first year? Yeah right.
I doubt he'll see 60,000. It's just another way to seperate the believers from their money.
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Tafiti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 04:37 PM
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4. I don't know...
...it wouldn't really surprise me. It would be sad and pathetic, but not surprising. Never underestimate the need for biblical literalists to flock toward something that provides affirmation of their beliefs. It's just one more large wall being built between science and fundamentalism, and they'll clamor to climb over it and stand proudly on their side so they can poo-poo those godless scientists.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 04:46 PM
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5. If thousands will flock to....
a salt stain on an overpass, squeegee stains on a window and spend thousands for a half eaten grilled cheese sandwich, they'll flock to this inbred morons "museum" as well.

I thought museums held real objects, such as antiquities, art, sculpture, manuscripts and the like? :shrug: How can you have a museum based on nothing but myths? Jesus did exist, but what are they going to "exhibit" beyond stories?
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Tafiti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 09:08 PM
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8. Haha, so true.
I'd almost be curious enough to check it out, just for shits and giggles (literally!). But then again, I wouldn't want to help fund and thus support this "museum" - you're right, they kind of use that word loosely, huh?

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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 05:48 PM
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6. Kindly recall
that the statments Mr. Ham makes are merely that, without substantiation. Do not buy into paranoia or fear about this thing, for its premise is not based upon reality. To do so only gives apparent power to these people. The best thing to do is to laugh it off as yet another example of media hype.
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Tux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 07:55 PM
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7. I'd say
Ignore it completely and don't let them get to you. The more they push, the more reaction they get, and they can claim persecution. The last thing a fundie (I live in the Bible Belt) wants is respects and some fear it since it may shatter their belief that they are persecuted. So next time you deal with a fundie, show them respect, don't belittle them, tell them you don't want their religion and if they ask what they're beliefs would mean if you didn't believe, tell that America is working since they can believe as they want and no one can tell them otherwise.
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Tafiti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 09:22 PM
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9. I'm neither paranoid nor afraid.
Not even surprised, just annoyed. I'm not sure I agree, though, about just ignoring them - I think that feeds their flame just as much as anything, because it still fits into their persecution complex - "see, they just laugh and ignore us, they think we're stupid and inferior..." Know what I mean? I don't think there's any "good" way to react to this, most of these people cling so steadfastly to these kinds of beliefs that they're nearly impenetrable.

I also think they're actually empowering themselves with this. Think how good it must feel to them that these scientists, who in their eyes are more legitimate than any other because they are literal-interpretationist Christians, can affirm the literal "truth" of Genesis and the creation myth. Hell, they'll even be showed hard evidence in this "museum" - what more proof is needed?! They're pumping themselves up with this, and they don't need media hype or any sort of reaction from "the other side" to fan the flames. They're fanning them themselves.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 05:58 AM
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10. oops
Edited on Mon May-23-05 05:59 AM by ayeshahaqqiqa
realized you were responding to another poster and not me, so I deleted my message.
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Tafiti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 07:41 PM
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12. FWIW...
...I was actually responding to both of you at the same time, since your posts seemed to be in relative agreement.
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