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Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 05:33 PM
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Heartening.
Albania's governing Democrats have proposed a law allowing same-sex civil weddings in the small, predominantly Muslim country.


http://www.startribune.com/world/52063097.html?elr=KArks:DCiUBcy7hUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUU
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 05:37 PM
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1. yes it is
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Silent3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 05:42 PM
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2. This is good for gay rights, and good for showing...
...that not all Muslims are dedicated to bringing back the 11th century. (At least if the law passes, as the article say it is expected to do.)
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Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 05:44 PM
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3. To be completely honest, I was
surprised, hence my title...

:hide:
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Betty Karlson Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 05:58 PM
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4. I cannot explain it,
But I would love to understand how this came to be.

*Are the democrats predominantly Muslems too?
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Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 05:59 PM
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5. One would assume so... nt.
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Betty Karlson Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 08:07 PM
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8. And we have some answers
The Democratic Part of Albania is a party that transcends religious lines. Malcontents have left the party to form the New Democratic party and the Christian-Democratic Party, leaving the Democratoc Party with - practically - the moderates. And Albania has lots of moderate leaning, voters, since Prime-Minister Berisha's party is the leading party in the Albanian parliament.

The Democratic Party was the firt opposition party to be allowed to exist (in 1990) after decades of communist dictatorship. Since the communists were rather restrictive in socio-ethical matters, the Democratic party still has a vibrant undercurrent of liberalism.

If you don't believe me: Wikipedia has many, many articles in various languages on the subject.
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Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 08:10 PM
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9. Ok. nt.
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Betty Karlson Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 08:17 PM
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10. Two small questions:
- And I hope not to come over as a nitwit, but -

what does "K & R" mean?
and what does "nt" mean?

I see those letters in so many posts, and I keep failing to understand them.
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Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 08:26 PM
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11. "Kicked and recommended" and
"no text".

When you post anything in a thread, you automatically "kick" it to the top of the threads column. Recommending it (anywhere but the Lounge! :rofl: ) can get that thread to the greatest page if it gets 5 recommends without being unrecommended down below 5 in a 24 hour period.


"No text" or eom (end of message) in a subject line means that there is nothing in the message box space (where this answer is right now), so you don't have to click on the subject line to see more...
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Betty Karlson Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 08:30 PM
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12. Thank you for those concise answers. NT.
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EvolveOrConvolve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 07:17 PM
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6. This is really sad
In the U.S., allegedly the most "free" country on the planet, a group of citizens is denied a basic right that the rest of us enjoy. Meanwhile, a nation dominated by Islam, a religion that doesn't have a great track record towards human rights, is proposing the very right that assholes in the U.S. are denying to gay citizens.

It makes me really sick how fucked up so many Americans really are. And it's basically a problem created by the religious in the U.S., including, sadly, some members of the Democratic party, the supposed party of inclusion and equal rights for all.
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Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 07:26 PM
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7. What can I say? Agreed. nt.
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