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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 09:50 AM
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Why not have a debate at the United Nations about the existence or non-existence of God?
Edited on Sun Aug-16-09 09:52 AM by Boojatta
For example, the government of North Korea can take the position that there is no God, and the government of Saudi Arabia can take the position that there is a God. Perhaps Switzerland can handle moderating duties.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 09:53 AM
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1. yeah, because there isn't enough pointless fighting in the world
:eyes:
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Indydem Donating Member (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 09:53 AM
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2. You cannot disprove the existance of God.
Neither can you prove it.

So what would the point be exactly?
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 09:56 AM
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4. What's the point when a government tells its citizens
that there is a God or tells its citizens that there isn't a God?
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Indydem Donating Member (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 09:59 AM
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6. Control, as its always been.
Control to shepherd the masses into supporting one policy in the name of the state-established god.

Hence our first amendment, that America will not have one God for all the people.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 09:55 AM
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3. That sounds like an idea.
An amazingly pointless idea.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 09:57 AM
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5. Religion is a tool to control the masses. Truth doesn't factor into it. nt
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 10:00 AM
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7. Are you assuming that truth factors into every debate?
For example, what about debates broadcast on Fox News and moderated by Fox News?
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 10:09 AM
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10. Nice totally irrelevant diversion!
:hi:
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 11:57 AM
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13. The reply was relevant.
A claim concerning truth in debate was made and then an example was offered to back up the claim.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 10:04 AM
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8. Why?
Edited on Sun Aug-16-09 10:05 AM by stray cat
Is that really the top priority of the UN - a debate on religion?
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blueworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 10:07 AM
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9. they can't even agree on the existence of Israel/Palestine...good grief n/t
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 11:22 AM
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11. Why use a proper noun for an abstract idea?
The very use of the big G god is begging the question, or alternatively, causing the question to be deceptively focused on a specific view of a god as if they were the only two options. As written the question is akin to "what's better tasting - Coca Cola or nothing at all?" as if there were no more options than drinking one brand of soda or drinking nothing. It's a pissant question even if technically a valid one - but of course to discuss even so would require a definition of "God" complete in every detail.
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rd_kent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 11:51 AM
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12. No, the debate should be on whether religion is the root of most of the worlds problems.
Edited on Sun Aug-16-09 11:52 AM by rd_kent
which, IMO, is the root problem of the worlds biggest problems.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 10:13 PM
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14. It seems to me that more good than harm would come of that idea,
so I'm saying, Why not, and recommending this post.
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moggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 05:20 AM
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15. Perhaps they'll get round to that
Right after they decide whether every even number greater than two can be expressed as the sum of two primes.
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 01:28 PM
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16. Maybe because the United Nations Charter states in the
Edited on Mon Aug-17-09 01:32 PM by Jim__
Preamble(http://www.un.org/en/documents/charter/preamble.shtml) that the UN is determined to avoid the scourge of war:



PREAMBLE
WE THE PEOPLES OF THE UNITED NATIONS DETERMINED
· to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war, which twice in our lifetime has brought untold sorrow to mankind, and
· to reaffirm faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person, in the equal rights of men and women and of nations large and small, and
· to establish conditions under which justice and respect for the obligations arising from treaties and other sources of international law can be maintained, and
· to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom,


One way to do that is to avoid debates about god.

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feedthephishes Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 10:02 PM
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17. Beating A Dead Horse.
I know this has been dumped on enough already, but even if this idea could possibly work, when has the UN answered a question? Never.
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Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 09:28 AM
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18. "Perhaps Switzerland can handle moderating duties."
:rofl: MAO!
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LAGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 01:22 AM
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19. Except that North Korea does take the position that there is a God.
His name is Kim Jong-il, or simply "Dear Leader."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Jong-il
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