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SlingBlade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:17 PM
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CHRISTIANS PROVOKED IN ROCKFORD, ILLINOIS
Source: Catholic.org

CHRISTIANS PROVOKED IN ROCKFORD, ILLINOIS

Catholic League president Bill Donohue is making public a letter he sent today to Patrick W. Hayes, Legal Director, City of Rockford, Illinois. Here is the text of that letter:

“I am aware that the Northern Illinois Women’s Center has long been the subject of controversy in Rockford; the rights of pro-life demonstrators have allegedly been violated. That is an important issue, but that is not the reason why I am contacting you.

“My concern rests with the egregious provocation of Christians attendant to the enclosed graphic of Jesus Christ extending his middle finger; the inscription, “Even Jesus Hates You,” appears below it. This graphic is currently being displayed in the window of the Center, in full view of adults and children; it has also been displayed, at various times, in the past.

“Under Part I, Chapters 19-3 and 19-4, “Offensive Uses of Property” and “Permitting Offensive Use of Property,” respectively, of the City of Rockford’s Code of Ordinance, it is illegal to “disturb or destroy the peace of the neighborhood in which such building or premises are situated, or be dangerous or detrimental to health.”

“This incendiary picture, designed to inflame Christian passions by assaulting their sensibilities and denigrating their religion—in a vile and obscene manner—constitutes such an infraction. As such, I am requesting that you take appropriate action against the Center to put an end to such needless provocation. Thank you for your consideration.”

http://www.catholic.org/politics/story.php?id=34493

Read more: http://www.catholic.org/politics/story.php?id=34493



This ordinance will not hold up. These rabid anti-rights groups are now trying to drag the city and it's legal team into this free speech issue which if pursued, will cost the city and the taxpayers millions.

Yes, Jesus does hate you !
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:18 PM
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1. But billboard-size images of aborted fetuses is just fine
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:39 PM
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18. Scores of Priests expanding little boys Anuses
Nice try scumbags
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darkstar3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 10:42 PM
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42. Dude,
ew.

Couldn't you just say 'boyfucking'?

I don't mean to get all queasy and word-police-y on you, but DAMN I didn't need that image...

:puke:
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GodDamLiberal Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 02:26 PM
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31. Maybe that Ordinance can be used
Edited on Fri Sep-25-09 02:29 PM by GodDamLiberal
to get rid of churches in the city.
There's nothing healthy about having a cult meeting place that tries to brainwash children.



meant this as a reply to the original post
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 02:43 PM
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35. Exactly.
Those are the photos that should be banned. It would certainly be disturbing to my neighborhood.
Since these folks voluntarily go into the alleged upsetting neighborhood, I see no way they can press this complaint.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:19 PM
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2. unemployment in Rockford exceeds 15.5%
They have money to fight this silly battle? I don't think so.

donohue is one of the biggest horse's asses in America. And he seems to cherish that role.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:19 PM
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3. There are some seriously scary right-wing fundies in that area. Which is too bad, because
it's a pretty area with many more liberal people than conservative. And very pro-union.

But for some reason, the fundies make the headlines there.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:44 PM
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21. It's because of the crappy newspaper.
It is a right-wing rag.
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SlingBlade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 02:01 PM
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24. Yep, A Right Wing Rag in Freeper Land !
I hope the city has enough sense to walk away from this
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:20 PM
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4. Cheap Trick is from Rockford
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SlingBlade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:23 PM
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7. Yea, Right Wingers as well
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:24 PM
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8. But so is Cheap Trick
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theblasmo Donating Member (221 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:53 PM
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23. Please Prove That
I'd appreciate some evidence that Cheap Trick is right-wing. I've never seen anything to support that in my 30-something years of fandom.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 02:08 PM
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26. Cheap Trick is not right wing
Edited on Fri Sep-25-09 02:08 PM by AngryAmish
on edit, they are from Rockford, tho.
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theblasmo Donating Member (221 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 02:36 PM
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34. Thanks
I remember seeing Rick Nielsen in The Big One. I couldn't imagine him playing guitar with Michael Moore is he was a right-winger.

Also, sometimes finding out your fave band follows a political or ethical philosophy you are vehemently against can destroy your enjoyment of it. Yup. I can be that shallow. Thanks again.
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:38 PM
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17. Actually, I'm from Emporia, KS
What, you mean the best rock band ever, not the asshole DU'er?


Ohhh, that's very different.


Never mind.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:21 PM
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5. Fuck Bill "Hollywood is controlled by secular Jews who love anal sex" Donohue.
Guy is a giant fucking Bloviating Turd.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:21 PM
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6. I think Jesus should be subpoenaed to clear this little matter right up.
:thumbsup:


Because until he puts in an appearance and speaks for himself, everyone has the right to speak FOR him, right?
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SlingBlade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:28 PM
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12. Yep. This bearded long hair can speek for himself
Edited on Fri Sep-25-09 01:29 PM by SlingBlade
I saw the pic in the window, Looks exactly as portrayed here.

Why do I think if Mr. Donahue met him on the street that he would put his eyes down and completely
ignore the guy if not run for cover. :)
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:26 PM
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9. Do they really have to sink to
that level? I don't like Donohue or the Catholic league but even as a non-believer I find this poster over the top. What's the point? How does it help the cause of womens' rights?

Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.
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SlingBlade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:31 PM
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13. It's become pretty nasty on all sides here
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:26 PM
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10. That's not Jesus, that's Errol Flynn........
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donquijoterocket Donating Member (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 02:07 PM
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25. godwin
At the risk of invoking Godwin's law. if it's not Errol Flynn from the 1938 classic Adventures of Robin hood it's a recruiting poster for the Waffen SS.Considering the area Jesus was from I'd say the possibility of him looking more like Yasser Arafat than that picture is pretty high.
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:27 PM
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11. I was unaware that Bill Donahue had personal knowledge of Jesus' appearance.
I was also unaware that a portrait of the Christian savior existed such that Mr. Donahue could state without reservation that the picture included in the OP was actually one of Christ himself.

Hmmmm...Jesus was a blue eyed, caucasian with brown hair?

Are you sure, Bill?

Maybe it is just a picture of a long haired northern European named Jesus holding up his middle finger.

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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:32 PM
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14. As a christian I don't like it
but it's free speech as far as I'm concerned.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:33 PM
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15. I don't see how this denigrates their religion
per the gospels, we know Jesus had a temper - he had quite the tantrum when he tossed the money lenders out of the temple. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't make a few obscene gestures as well when he did that.

Donohue and others object to this because it gives an interpretation of Christ's attitudes that's different from theirs. If they had thought of it first, they would have been happy to wave this poster at the people who work at the clinic.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:37 PM
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16. Does the Catholic League have any members besides Bill Donahue?
I've never heard of it in any other context other than in connection with that bag of shit.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:41 PM
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19. Ha, ha. Yeah. No shit.
I think it's basically just an excuse for him to come on TV and spew his crap.
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 02:23 PM
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30. i don't think there is.
Edited on Fri Sep-25-09 02:25 PM by Soylent Brice
i heard of this before. it's just one guy, yet he has been able to influence things in the past.

i'll have to find the link.

on edit:

nope, thinking of wrong org: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_League_(U.S.)

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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 05:46 PM
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40. There is Donahue's dick, and his wife, his dog, his cat.
The MSM never calls for a mainstream spokesperson on controversial issues, they always call the crazies of which Donahue is one.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:42 PM
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20. Bill Donohue is a professional career serial offendee
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SlingBlade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:46 PM
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22. This Ordinance ...
Is begging for a Free Speech Lawsuit. Funny nobody brought it up over large posters portraying
aborted fetuses.


“Under Part I, Chapters 19-3 and 19-4, “Offensive Uses of Property” and “Permitting Offensive Use of Property,” respectively, of the City of Rockford’s Code of Ordinance, it is illegal to “disturb or destroy the peace of the neighborhood in which such building or premises are situated, or be dangerous or detrimental to health.”
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 02:16 PM
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27. The picture is offensive but not illegal. Posting it in a window is just stupid.
It does nothing to advance pro-choice.oh, and BTW Bill, having been raised Catholic myself, I would like to point out the "Christians" you reference, don't consider you or any Catholics "Christian" so perhaps that phrase needs to be deleted.Donahue is a moron.
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 02:20 PM
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28. Someone send a WAAAAAAAHmbulance for Donohue -- and the city should countersue
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curlydogusa Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 02:21 PM
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29. Looks Like a 6ft tall White guy with long hair to me
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kooljerk666 Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 02:35 PM
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32. Bill Has been on South Park.........& reemed pretty well too
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 02:36 PM
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33. Hahahahaah "Even Jesus Hates You"! I love it!
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 03:21 PM
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36. actually the republicans in rockford are offensive
rockford is one of the most racist cities in america. the only thing good about rockford is a blues bar,some good stores,and that`s about it.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 03:38 PM
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37. Yeah, it's offensive.
So is trying to cram your religion down someone else's throat.

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SlingBlade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 04:39 PM
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38. Now why would a Free Speech Issue be moved to
the Religion Section ?
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 05:45 PM
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39. Frak the fat Bill Donohue and his stupid Catholic League and its dozen members!
A fringe Catholic and his fringe organization that are only outdone in stupidity by Phelps' Westboro Baptist Church.
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gk88850 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 09:18 PM
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41. Love the picture. Haha
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iris27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 10:59 PM
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43. Donahue's a fucknut, and the center has every right to have the sign up, but I don't
think it can be all that helpful to their overall mission. After all, I'd imagine the majority of their patients are Christian.
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darkstar3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 12:05 AM
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44. +1 for irony in truth!
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Sal316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 10:12 AM
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45. That's just funny....
Honestly, I don't think Jesus would hate them, but he might flip them off for being ignorant fuckwits who pervert his teachings beyond recognition.
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