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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 10:13 AM Original message |
Atheism is a non-belief, not a belief. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 10:15 AM Response to Original message |
1. I believe you. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 10:16 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Thank you kindly. |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 10:43 AM Response to Reply #1 |
14. I believe |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 12:06 PM Response to Reply #14 |
34. I believe that you did rec the post. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
2. It depends--it can be either the absence of belief or it can be |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 10:17 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Oh, I believe there is goods. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 10:37 AM Response to Reply #4 |
11. I'm obviously very confused, Though that would explain |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 10:23 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. No, atheism is a belief like not collecting stamps is a hobby |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 10:44 AM Response to Reply #8 |
15. and what of ascotchists? |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 11:56 AM Response to Reply #15 |
30. Why would one drink Scotch, when |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 01:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
40. No, you are wrong. It is NOT a belief in anything, its a LACK of belief. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 06:40 PM Response to Reply #2 |
49. Agnosticism does not mean "no belief". |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
5. Sounds like little to no semantic difference... |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 10:21 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. There is a distinct semantic difference. |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 10:42 AM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Depends on how you define "religion" |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
6. It depends on your chosen nomenclature. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 10:24 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Mine is an active disbelief. I do not believe. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 10:41 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Again, it's semantics. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 11:32 AM Response to Reply #12 |
25. But don't you think that stating it as an "active disbelief" |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 07:06 PM Response to Reply #25 |
50. I'm not sure that I understand. I DO have an "active" disbelief in unicorns, by my definition. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 11:59 AM Response to Reply #12 |
31. A god? |
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Lost-in-FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
10. I always wonder why it is so hard for some... |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 11:15 AM Response to Reply #10 |
20. They want to equalize the situation. |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 11:39 AM Response to Reply #20 |
27. Abso-fraggin-lutely. Perfectly stated. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 12:07 PM Response to Reply #20 |
35. Well said, sir or madam. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 01:15 PM Response to Reply #20 |
39. I don't know how you do it. |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #20 |
41. +1000000..Nicly done. |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
16. Non-belief is a belief system - now if its an amorphous thought maybe not |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #16 |
42. You just contradicted yourself. You disproved your own thought. |
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Altoid_Cyclist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
17. I believe in no gods. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 12:02 PM Response to Reply #17 |
32. But Grovelbot actually exists. |
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Altoid_Cyclist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 04:58 PM Response to Reply #32 |
48. If we are able to find some more missiles, can we use biological warheads against FR? |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
18. It's sort of like the difference in math between positive and non-negative. |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:40 PM Response to Reply #18 |
56. Thank you for this explanation - that makes sense. |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
19. I think the difference is rhetorical. |
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gcomeau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 11:34 AM Response to Reply #19 |
26. No it isn't. |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 01:36 PM Response to Reply #19 |
43. I disagree. |
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NeoGreen (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
21. For my part as an Atheist I like the quote... |
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HERVEPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
22. To me, sounds like a distinction without a difference. |
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NeoGreen (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 11:43 AM Response to Reply #22 |
29. How about: Null-State, Positive-State and Negative-State, Atheists? |
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HERVEPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 12:12 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. Well, |
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NeoGreen (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 10:41 PM Response to Reply #37 |
54. check out response #28, five doors down... |
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NeoGreen (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
23. Don't forget about PolyAtheism... |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 10:21 PM Response to Reply #23 |
52. Oh, I believe in all of the gods. |
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NeoGreen (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 10:39 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. You do not exist... |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
24. Two things to hold in one's head for this thread |
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yodermon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
28. Colorless green ideas sleep furiously |
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DU GrovelBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
33. ## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ## |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 12:09 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. See! Grovelbot exists. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
38. Meh. Just avoid the issue by saying God doesn't exist and we can prove it. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
44. depends, you are leaving out 1/2 |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 03:43 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Met any strong atheists? |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 03:54 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. yes i have |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 03:38 PM Response to Reply #47 |
61. . |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 05:02 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. i'm well aware of the logical problems |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 05:09 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Anecdotes = / = evidence, |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 06:39 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. are you kidding |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 09:12 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Not kidding at all. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 11:03 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. ok |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 11:24 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. You lose this round. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 11:29 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. you still don't get it |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 11:34 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. You are deliberately ignoring the points made to you, |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 12:05 AM Response to Reply #75 |
77. because it's an absurd point |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 12:14 AM Response to Reply #77 |
79. OK, this is my last attempt to stop your conflation of two separate points. |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
45. Well said. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 07:48 PM Response to Reply #45 |
51. Heck, I'd settle for just one. |
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Meshuga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 07:41 AM Response to Original message |
55. Yep, people making assumption based on a limited world view is pretty annoying. n/t |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
57. Ah, what a delightful way to waste some time. |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:50 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. "followers of atheism" |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 02:33 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Why put quotes around something when it's not a quote? |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 03:26 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. For the record: |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 09:43 PM Response to Reply #60 |
66. Boy, you guys are dense. |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 09:51 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Abusing the English language |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 10:35 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. It's like round-robin idiocy. |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 10:43 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Contradiction is all you have, |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 11:19 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Perhaps you just don't like people who disagree with you. |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 11:30 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. You've come to expect no less, have you? |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 11:49 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. It was followers of that meaning, that particular meaning. |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 09:36 AM Response to Reply #74 |
81. indeed I put in in quotations because that was what that mess of text was saying |
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iris27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 12:10 AM Response to Reply #57 |
78. Sorry, etymologically, a-theist means not having a belief in a god. |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 06:20 AM Response to Reply #78 |
80. English is a clunky language. And, no, you're not sorry. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 03:35 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. On second thought... |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 09:45 AM Response to Reply #57 |
82. Followers? How would I have any followers? |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 10:42 AM Response to Reply #82 |
84. Hopefully, people can follow what you say. |
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