Oklahoma Catholics Upset Over Perceived Genitalia On Crucifix

it's PeniJesus!

And notice the men standing so closely behind the men in front under Jesus's arms.

with alarming regularity.

Now I can say I'm not paunchy, I'm just packing. That's what I'd say, anyway, to pecksniffs who think Jesus has a dingus where his bellybutton should be.

but then I'm not from Oklahoma, and I don't have a repressed id that imagines sexual threats in everything including baby bunnies and talking dolls and gilt renderings of Jesus.

Remember the doll that said "Ciao Mami" and the ReligioWackazoids went into conniptions because they thought the doll was saying "Kill Mommy."

We gotta love 'em. Somebody has to.

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Revised punch line to an old joke.

because if it was it would obviously be uncircumcised and Jesus was a Jew so he would have been clipped.

- Talk about being hung on a cross.....

:)

These pious pipsqueaks are making a well-meaning lady feel bad.



A couple more of her icons:

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magazines with an article on modern representations of the crucifixion that included a large photo of a bronze sculpture of a very naked Jesus suffering on the cross and an interview with the sculptor who seemed intent on using the word "penis" frequently: IIRC, the interview went something like, Of course, what shocks people is the penis. But I think this may be historically accurate, since the whole point of crucifixion was to degrade and humiliate the victim, so it's quite likely that people were crucified naked. And if we believe Jesus was a man, then he had a penis, so why should we really be shocked to see a naked figure with a penis on a crucifix? People took it home and read it

This picture, of course, with the modest loin covering, doesn't show anything like that -- it just looks like a thousand other icons

of a picture of a man being tortured to death? But his penis (which is so not even what that is) is offensive to the public morality? That display of priorities is completely fucked up.

Violence is far more acceptable to young audiences than sexuality or even nudity.

Male full frontal is not. Fifty percent of people have penises. I sure as hell hope fifty percent have never shot another person.

Our priorities are deeply flawed.

But replace that first crucifix with one that doesn't include a comically large boner, and they're fine with it.

:rofl: :rofl:

How ridiculous! Do they want Christ to magically turn into a Ken doll?

:toast:

I was going to use the obvious subject line: "He is truly risen!" Or some-such.

This reminds me of my childhood among Appalachian Fundies, which include an alarming number of my blood relatives.

The SoB (Southern Baptist) version of Christ on the cross was usually fairly tame, and well-covered etc. Then when I was 12 or 13 years old and poking around in a library, I got a gander at some Crucifixion paintings from the Spanish Ascetic school.

What a shock! For one thing, they were extremely gory. But the most shocking thing to me, at that age, was a totally naked Jesus with the Holy Whangdoodle fully exposed.

I think I finally decided that couldn't really be Jesus, because he didn't have blue eyes and nearly-blond hair. Like the True Messiah of the Appalachian South, Billy Graham.

OMG!!! :rofl:

My family was devout Catholic, and they too didn't have any *nekkid* pictures of Christ. And all of them had light skin, blue eyes - and looked like he might work on Wall Street with the right haircut.

I actually enjoy the variations of the artwork over the centuries. Too bad we still have people getting the vapors over the Holy whangdoodle peeking out :rofl:

I enjoy the variations of artwork too. (In case you didn't guess, I've been a happy atheist for many years.)

From 2005-2009, I lived and worked in Alexandria, Egypt, which had some really amazing variations on religious themes. The whole city is still sort of a variation. Right in my neighborhood, a huge mosque and a huge Coptic Xian church glared at each other across the same street.

The real mindblower is the Kom-el-Choqafa catacombs, built by Romans in the second century CE. Located right smack in the middle of modern downtown Alexandria, the multi-story underground complex was allegedly discovered when a donkey fell in a hole circa 1905. Local legend says the donkey survived with a broken leg. He was immediately retired by the grateful citizens and spent the rest of his life in ease and comfort.

Kom-el-Choqafa literally shows, in stone, a time when ancient Egyptian, Greek and Roman religious practices were "melting together" in Alexandria. The Xians put an end to that party a couple of centuries later.

Statues of an elderly Roman couple (presumably tomb occupants) show them in Roman clothes, but posed exactly like ancient Egyptian tomb carvings - with one foot forward, stepping into the Afterlife.

A line of wicked cobra heads (also from ancient Egytian beliefs) are carved into the solid bedrock of the catacombs. The bottom-most level of the tombs still have huge stone tables and benches, where ancient Alexandrians did pretty much the same thing we do today at wakes and funerals - gathered to eat, drink and mourn.

Above one tomb is a painting of Anubis embalming Osiris - pure Egyptian. And right under that, a painting of Persephone being dragged into Hades - pure Greek.

One tomb entrance is flanked by statues of two famous Egyptian gods, Anubis and Sobek. But they are dressed in the uniforms/armor of Roman soldiers. Sobek is a crocodile, so this looks truly bizarre.

My favorite place, deep in the catacombs, was a spot with a big pile of mixed horse and human bones. It was a shrine to Nemesis, among other things the patron goddess of horse-racers and jockeys. I guess that explains the horse bones. As for the human skeletons, I dunno. Maybe they belonged to jockeys who lost too many races.

Sorry to hi-jack, I got carried away. Happens all the time...

...and never have to use it.

Christians belittle Christ all the time. think about it, SEX to Jesus would be Boring. His touch would send you into hour long Orgasms. and you couldn't possibly satisfy Him.

(My theology teacher hated me too.) ;)

not a member. My humble opinion. However, it is easy to see how it's being misinterpreted. All the artist has to do is come in and soften the lines and shadows that indicate stomach musculature. But that won't happen because the hysteria is much more fun.

:shrug:

about.

Fairness Doctrine for bigotry.

But they have a problem with a stylized 6 pack?

The Vesica is a portal/opening between worlds.



In Christian iconography it is used to describe the physical and metaphysical liminal space that holy men and women inhabit. And it is often turned 90 degrees or "upright" giving it an even more pronounced resemblance to the vulva.




http://www.cartage.org.lb/en/themes/Arts/Architec/MiddleAgesArchitectural/GothicArchitecture/GothicArchitectureinBritain/VesicaPiscisthePointedArch/VesicaPiscisthePointedArch.htm

to a number of different crucifix images.
Don't know if the "penis" is always intentional or not.

See:




(note - the bottom two are both replicas of the original San Damiano Cross)

Ask any Christianist.