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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 11:13 AM
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‘A Theology of Suffering and Disability’
I just received this press release where I work. To me, "Joni and Friends" sound like a bunch of vultures. I've highlighted the most ghoulish passages. Curious how others react to this:


Joni and Friends Develops Course on ‘A Theology of Suffering and Disability’ for Seminaries and Christian Universities:

New Partners to Start Courses this Fall

AGOURA HILLS, Calif., June 8, 2010 – Joni and Friends International Disability Center, an organization whose purpose is to accelerate ministry to the disability community, through its Christian Institute on Disability (CID), has developed a university level course on “A Theology of Suffering and Disability,” which has been adopted by several universities around the country, with more to sign on this Fall.

The first to offer this course was the Biblical Studies Department at Biola University in La Mirada, Calif. Dr. Kathy McReynolds, Ph.D., Public Policy Director for the Joni and Friends Christian Institute on Disability and adjunct professor at Biola University, began teaching the course in the Spring of 2007. Dallas Theological Seminary and Masters College now also offer the course.

Liberty University in Lynchburg, Va., is the most recent university to add the course to its list of program studies. Taught as a one-week Summer intensive, “A Theology of Suffering and Disability” will be offered during the week of August 2-6, 2010. McReynolds will be the professor for this course.

The course is designed to help students answer some of life’s most unanswerable questions: How could a good and loving God allow such evil and suffering: war, poverty, famine, disability? People with disabilities suffer from the evils of the world more than many other people groups. How could God allow this to happen?

In addition, students will be prepared to conduct ministry to what is considered one of the largest underrepresented groups, with more than 650 million people worldwide living with a disability (roughly 10 percent of the world's population).

“While it is also one of the largest unchurched groups on earth, people affected by disabilities have much to teach us about spiritual transformation,” McReynolds said. “Their specific plight – their sufferings both personally and publically – mirror the human condition and Christian journey in many unique ways.

Joni and Friends established the CID in 2007, realizing the Christian community needed a resource regarding life issues in a day and age when the lives of the most vulnerable are under threat. Joni and Friends is passionately concerned about the many issues currently being debated in the medical arena, such as health care reform, stem cell research, reproductive technologies, and end of life care. The CID exists to educate the church on these important ethical concerns.

For more than 30 years, Joni and Friends has worked to accelerate ministry to the disability community, offering a wide array of life-affirming ministries to people with disabilities around the world. Joni and Friends does this through the International Disability Center; the CID; international radio and television programs filled with inspirational stories; Wheels for the World, which every year sees thousands of individuals receive wheelchairs and the life-giving message of the Gospel; and Family Retreats held in the U.S. and around the world, where families affected by disability learn that they are not alone. More information can be found online at the ministry’s new website, www.joniandfriends.org.




I had a debate with my wife recently about the baffling instance (to me) of hyper-religious people with disabilities. We're both atheists for the record. I work with people with disabilities, and to me the sort of language in this press release is well-meaning in some instances, but at root disgustingly condescending. I doubt many people with disabilities relish the idea of being living lessons in humility for people who have to learn about suffering in non-accredited college courses. I doubt even the most religious people with disabilities like that idea, sympathetic though many might be to their hidden political agenda (and believe me, when these people express an interest in stem cell research, it's not because they hope for cures; they like their cripples to stay crippled, or else all that beautiful imitation of Christhood goes down the toilet).

In any case, my wife said people with disabilities should be given a pass on getting whatever comfort they need however they can get it. She argued that it's cruel, perhaps, to insist on clear-eyed rationality from someone who, without promise of reward in an afterlife, might be left in abject despair over the realization that their being singled out for special suffering is utterly devoid of reason or justice, but is, in coldblooded fact, a pure accident of the universe.

I will simply say that I disagreed with her. In my opinion, if something's evidence-based truth is good enough for one person, it's good enough for everybody, regardless of any special circumstances. In fact, I think it's utterly ridiculous to think of suffering as a price one (other than me, thank gods!) pays in this life for--for what, exactly? Pleasure? Health? Ease?--in the next life.





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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 11:15 AM
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1. if I was god everyone would have a wonderful peace filled life instead being a sadist nt
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 11:19 AM
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2. Then you would be a god I could believe in..............
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 11:43 AM
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3. Eh. I think I'm with you:
Nice idea; poor execution.

The real problem in a lot of societies, religious or not, is that disabled people themselves don't get much chance to talk about living with their disabilities in a more public way. And I mean talk about the good and bad aspects and just plain mundane, like everyone else. And have others accept it for what it is, an individual's experience of this life.

For the physically healthy, it can seem like those of us in the physically imperfect world just want to complain or otherwise somehow "milk" it, if we so much as mention it. That needs to go away, permanently.

I suspect, but can't verify, that the "good" of what they are trying to get at here is that having an disability can make you, for one thing, slow down and observe life, moreso than people who do not. To some who don't metacogitate on the meaning of life, you can seem like a sage.

I did not take it from your excerpt, though that a specific person's job, according to God, would be to suffer. I don't take that view at all. I looked at as "look, we suffer, might as well use it in a more positive way, instead of suffering alone and in silence.

I also wondered if this was the same "Joni" who was popular in evangelical circles in the 70s and early 80s. It is.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 01:01 PM
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5. I think disability, catastrophic illness, etc., presents a special problem for fundamentalist xians
in particular, because their religion is all about a merciful god who gave his only begotten son to absolve the rest of us if we only had faith. So why would he visit this extra suffering on so many innocent people for no good apparent reason if he was fundamentally a good god with a good plan for us all? This type of Christian loves a reformed sinner, and I think even though they may truly understand that disability is not some kind of sin, it is like the kind of sin their favorite kinds of Christians go through to emerge saved and reborn on the other side. So their second favorite type of Christian is one who suffers pointlessly at the hands of the indifferent universe and emerges nevertheless full of immaculate faith in God and Jesus, despite having God's majesty kick the living shit out of them for no good reason whatsoever. Praise Jesus!

I think they walk a very fine line there, though.
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FailureToCommunicate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 11:53 AM
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4. You hit it on the head with "vulture." Joni& Friends is just another evangelical "christian"
bunch against civil rights: abortion rights, equal marriage rights, stem cell research, etc.

They just happen to be disabled, and use a kind of Trojan wheelchair approach to spread their version of turn-back-the-clock fundamentalism.


Let them into your (religious) life at your peril.

"Bad dates..."

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moobu2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 09:25 PM
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6. The Joni in Joni and Friends is
Joni Eareckson Tada, a person I remember from the Terri Schiavo saga. As I remember, she tirelessly campaigned to keep Terri Schiavo on life support and tried to compare her situation as a disabled person (paraplegic I think) to Terri's, who of course had lost all higher brain function and was basically already dead. At one point she stood arm and arm with Randall Terry in a vigil at the hospice where Terri Schiavo was located and even went on Larry King Live to distort the situation. If it were up to this person, no one would ever be allowed to be disconnected from life support, ever. Joni Eareckson Tada just uses her disability and allows other Christians to use it for their extreme political views on Right To Life issues, usually where there's a disability angle. Most right wing christians thought of Terri Schiavo as being "disabled" mainly because of her.
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 10:14 PM
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7. This has nothing to do with faith, disability,
or any combination of the above. It's about marketing. They're just trying to exploit people's fear and desperation for money. Fuck 'em.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 04:43 AM
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8. Their redemptive suffering goes well with their death cult.
Very negative and life-destroying, in my opinion.
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