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pgodbold (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 08:12 AM Original message |
Hawking to God: Your Services Are No Longer Needed; God to Hawking: You So Don't Get Who I Am. |
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redwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 08:15 AM Response to Original message |
1. "God is dead". - Nietzsche |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 08:52 AM Response to Reply #1 |
26. God is dead |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 09:18 AM Response to Reply #26 |
39. That might be the dirtiest post I've ever read on DU |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 09:55 AM Response to Reply #26 |
55. (This Xtian rises to give Warpy a standing ovation.) EVERYTHING you said! nt |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 12:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
116. Nietzsche was wrong. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 01:33 PM Response to Reply #1 |
136. Nietzsche was not referring to a literal god when he wrote "God is dead." |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 02:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
137. I remember that as popular bathroom stall graffiti forty years ago, together with other |
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Jim__ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 07:37 AM Response to Reply #137 |
171. I disagree with calling Nietzsche a nihilist. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 06:54 PM Response to Reply #171 |
173. Maybe. I'm not a Nietzsche expert, though I have on and off read a fair amount of him, |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 08:17 AM Response to Original message |
2. Except that Hawking's assertion is nothing at al like Fundamentalists' assertion |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 08:20 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. +1,000 n/t |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 08:26 AM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Yep |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 08:48 AM Response to Reply #2 |
19. Yup... |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 09:25 AM Response to Reply #2 |
43. thanks, Orrex, for pointing out the false equivalency |
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frogmarch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 10:11 AM Response to Reply #2 |
65. Excellent, Orrex! |
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realisticphish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 10:13 AM Response to Reply #2 |
69. +pi |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 03:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
138. By definition, science does not appeal to supernaturalities: to claim such-and-such a phenomenon |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 03:24 PM Response to Reply #138 |
140. Nothing is "supernatural" |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 03:41 PM Response to Reply #140 |
141. I made a careful philosophical statement, about the nature of science. I made no claims whatsoever |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 06:39 PM Response to Reply #141 |
144. Implicit in your |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 07:07 PM Response to Reply #144 |
145. My statement was simply about what science is and what it is not |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 12:21 PM Response to Reply #141 |
155. What you "carefully" said was essentially: |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-10 07:39 AM Response to Reply #155 |
163. My alternatives in interpretting your response seem to be either (1) You don't understand what I say |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-10 01:52 PM Response to Reply #163 |
167. Naw, you lose again. I choose door #3. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
3. Um, no. And BTW, it's called "faith" and not "science" for a reason. |
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pokercat999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 08:30 AM Response to Reply #3 |
10. Religion the world's best "con". I get you to do something today |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 09:23 AM Response to Reply #10 |
41. You mis-read me completely. I am pointing out how "faith" is, by definition, adhering |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 08:19 AM Response to Original message |
4. I am glad someone spoke out on the "god" bullshit, and I am -as usual- |
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whistler162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 08:43 AM Response to Reply #4 |
16. Sorry but Nietzche didn't exist..... I never met him |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 09:14 AM Response to Reply #16 |
37. So you're a solipsist, then? |
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potassiumnitrate (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 08:22 AM Response to Original message |
6. No it's not |
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Tuesday Afternoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 08:24 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. never is a loong time. |
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whistler162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 08:38 AM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Well what you see as no evidence I see as evidence! |
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Cirque du So-What (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 08:40 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. I see no evidence of your evidence |
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whistler162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 08:43 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Like I said that is your religious belief! |
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Cirque du So-What (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 08:56 AM Response to Reply #17 |
28. Is that the rumbling of a latent RW talking point I hear? |
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whistler162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 09:09 AM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Kinda knee jerk reaction there. Must have hit a sensitive point! |
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Electric Monk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 09:11 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Another thank you for outing yourself, whistler162. nt |
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Cirque du So-What (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 09:29 AM Response to Reply #32 |
46. Yeah, I'm kinda sensitive about RW talking points being repeated on an ostensibly democratic board |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 10:54 AM Response to Reply #32 |
87. Hardly a knee jerk reaction. Your innuendo leaves little to the imagination |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 10:51 AM Response to Reply #17 |
86. Wait, what? |
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Chicago dyke (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 11:00 AM Response to Reply #17 |
91. no, that's not how it works. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 08:59 AM Response to Reply #15 |
30. Non video ergo non est. |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 09:13 AM Response to Reply #30 |
36. And it killed the radio star, too |
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redwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 11:31 AM Response to Reply #36 |
101. Thanks for the earworm! |
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Cirque du So-What (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 08:49 AM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Intangible evidence is the best! |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 08:50 AM Response to Reply #14 |
22. How does that even make sense?... |
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whistler162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 09:11 AM Response to Reply #22 |
33. Look at the world as a whole. Where someone sees no |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 09:17 AM Response to Reply #33 |
38. What you're doing, in essence, is saying "don't bother to think; just believe" |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 09:28 AM Response to Reply #38 |
45. "What you're doing, in essence, is saying 'don't bother to think; just believe |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 09:53 AM Response to Reply #33 |
51. what you're saying is that scientific, verifiable reproducible evidence |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-10 11:26 AM Response to Reply #33 |
180. Is the god you see Zeus? nm |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-10 11:24 AM Response to Reply #14 |
179. I agree with your evidence. The sky is blue therefore there is a God. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 09:31 AM Response to Reply #6 |
47. besides which Hawking's assertion is about a requirement for god |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 08:22 AM Response to Original message |
7. Was that a direct quote from God? |
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Fuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 08:31 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Me, he spoke to me directly in a vivid dream. |
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The Velveteen Ocelot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
12. No, not at all. What Hawking did was explain that a god was not necessary |
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USArmyParatrooper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 09:50 AM Response to Reply #12 |
50. "not necessary" is pure conjecture. |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 10:56 AM Response to Reply #50 |
90. No, its based on sound reasoning and the scientific method. |
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Cirque du So-What (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 08:37 AM Response to Original message |
13. There is no equivalence whatsoever |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
18. Again in the replies we read the ever popular DU anti-god, anti-religious attitude. |
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potassiumnitrate (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 08:51 AM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Why are you taking it so personally? |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 08:51 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. It's hard to feel bad for presecuted Christians in the US |
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ThomasQED (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 10:18 AM Response to Reply #24 |
73. Not persecuted, and in fact have succeeded in pushing their beliefs off on the rest of us |
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AlecBGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-10 01:34 PM Response to Reply #24 |
166. +1 |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 08:52 AM Response to Reply #18 |
25. Deleted message |
WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 09:24 AM Response to Reply #18 |
42. If you're so concerned, perhaps you'd like to capitalize God? You know, because it's a name? |
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Cirque du So-What (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 09:26 AM Response to Reply #18 |
44. A little perspective... |
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Chicago dyke (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 11:04 AM Original message |
oh, thanks so much for that! |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 09:33 AM Response to Reply #18 |
48. The OP is an attack on atheism and equates |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 10:05 AM Response to Reply #18 |
60. It's quite predictable, isn't it? nt |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 10:36 AM Response to Reply #18 |
77. I can see it. It's an old Z80, right? |
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NoPasaran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 08:50 AM Response to Original message |
21. Men have been ruling out the existence of God since at least the time of Voltaire |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 08:52 AM Response to Reply #21 |
27. Voltaire could totally kick Clapton's ass on guitar |
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Electric Monk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 08:57 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. I'd like to see that |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 09:45 AM Response to Reply #21 |
49. Hawking made no such assertion. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 03:22 PM Response to Reply #21 |
139. Treatise on Toleration (Voltaire | 1763) |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
31. Unlike God ... |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 09:12 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Well... |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
40. Didn't do well on your SAT analogy section, huh? nt. |
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Ezlivin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
52. Nothing retards and corrodes modern civilization more... |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 09:55 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. so beautiful I want to applaud |
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FedUpWithIt All (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 09:59 AM Response to Reply #52 |
56. I disagree. I think nothing corrodes and retards more than hatred and self-centered intolerance n/t |
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Ezlivin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 10:03 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. And I believe that that hatred and self-centered intolerance |
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FedUpWithIt All (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 10:08 AM Response to Reply #58 |
62. Not as evidenced right here |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 10:33 PM Response to Reply #62 |
159. You don't seem to accept the view of some of the posts you're responding to |
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FedUpWithIt All (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-10 01:58 AM Response to Reply #159 |
162. I don't think i have belittled a person's choice of, or for lack of, a belief system |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-10 10:15 PM Response to Reply #162 |
169. I simply don't believe in special kid gloves treatment for religious or... |
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FedUpWithIt All (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 02:50 AM Response to Reply #169 |
170. By all means, say if you think a belief in dieties is irrational. |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 10:14 AM Response to Reply #58 |
70. this person offers nothing but attacks against reason |
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FedUpWithIt All (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 10:38 AM Response to Reply #70 |
80. I will respect your RIGHT to believe that. |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 10:50 AM Response to Reply #80 |
85. hyperbole : exaggeration for effect |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 10:55 AM Response to Reply #80 |
88. I also do not respect a religion's "right" to believe that women are second-class citizens |
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FedUpWithIt All (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 11:11 AM Response to Reply #88 |
98. Thought police? |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 12:03 PM Response to Reply #98 |
113. Oh please. How stupid. |
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Chicago dyke (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 11:11 AM Response to Reply #56 |
97. it's silly and ironic for believers |
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FedUpWithIt All (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 11:31 AM Response to Reply #97 |
100. I agree that demanding tolerance when you have been intolerant is terribly ironic. |
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FedUpWithIt All (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
54. As much as DU likes to fancy itself a defender of rights of all people to live, love and worship |
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gophates (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 09:59 AM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Go worship whatever you want. |
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FedUpWithIt All (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 10:03 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. You haven't but if you review this thread you will see quite a bit of "belief" espoused. |
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gophates (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 10:06 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. A belief in rational thought over superstition is not a religious belief |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 10:12 AM Response to Reply #61 |
67. let's enforce all those bible rules ok? oh wait, what about those other non-bible gods' rules? nt |
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FedUpWithIt All (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 10:13 AM Response to Reply #61 |
68. Oh, so it is just "religious belief" that you think should be suppressed? |
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gophates (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 10:15 AM Response to Reply #68 |
71. I never said supressed. |
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FedUpWithIt All (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 10:29 AM Response to Reply #71 |
75. You assume a lot. |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 11:03 AM Response to Reply #75 |
95. self delete |
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FedUpWithIt All (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 11:33 AM Response to Reply #95 |
102. Would you like to share what belief system you think i follow? |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 11:46 AM Response to Reply #102 |
105. My apologies |
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FedUpWithIt All (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 11:57 AM Response to Reply #105 |
108. Thank you. I appreciate this more than you know. |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 12:03 PM Response to Reply #108 |
112. No worries. I can admit when I am wrong. |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 10:12 AM Response to Reply #59 |
66. yet more demonstration of the inability to distinguish between religion and science |
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FedUpWithIt All (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 10:18 AM Response to Reply #66 |
72. Come now. You see nothing but science expressed in this thread? |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 10:42 AM Response to Reply #72 |
83. show the evidence you want to use to make your claim |
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FedUpWithIt All (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 11:02 AM Response to Reply #83 |
94. You are capable of reading this thread. I would be calling others out to show you examples. |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 11:04 AM Response to Reply #94 |
96. Thats a total cop out. |
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FedUpWithIt All (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 11:34 AM Response to Reply #96 |
103. No, those are the rules of the board. n/t |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 12:02 PM Response to Reply #103 |
111. Wrong. You can link to certain posts without calling someone out. |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 12:24 PM Response to Reply #94 |
115. let me put it to you this way |
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realisticphish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 10:08 AM Response to Reply #54 |
63. "tolerance" doesn't mean that I can't criticize something |
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FedUpWithIt All (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 10:26 AM Response to Reply #63 |
74. To imply that the person who's idea is being countered is not as intelligent or otherwise "less" |
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ThomasQED (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 11:13 AM Response to Reply #74 |
99. self-delete |
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LAGC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 06:58 AM Response to Reply #74 |
132. So nobody should criticize? |
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FedUpWithIt All (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 01:08 PM Response to Reply #132 |
135. What was happening here was a critique of the person not just critiques of the viewpoint |
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LAGC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 09:34 PM Response to Reply #135 |
147. That makes sense. |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 10:09 AM Response to Reply #54 |
64. maybe this is one big reason why |
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FedUpWithIt All (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 10:31 AM Response to Reply #64 |
76. I am no fan of religion. But i respect the right of others to worship as they will. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 10:37 AM Response to Reply #76 |
78. No, wait, let me guess. You are a "lifelong atheist but..." |
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FedUpWithIt All (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 10:40 AM Response to Reply #78 |
81. I am none of the above. |
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ThomasQED (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 10:42 AM Response to Reply #76 |
84. I'm losing the respect for others to worship as they will |
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FedUpWithIt All (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 10:56 AM Response to Reply #84 |
89. A respect for other's rights to their personal belief does not mean always accepting their behavior. |
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ThomasQED (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 11:02 AM Response to Reply #89 |
93. That's where the "worship as they will" part comes in. (nt) |
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FedUpWithIt All (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 11:36 AM Response to Reply #93 |
104. Fair enough if you mean "belief in action". |
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ThomasQED (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 11:51 AM Response to Reply #104 |
107. I don't know what you mean by "belief in action". |
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FedUpWithIt All (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 12:00 PM Response to Reply #107 |
110. I believe we agree then. |
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LAGC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 07:07 AM Response to Reply #89 |
133. Why do you list "belief systems" and "education level" along with unchangeable traits? |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 11:00 AM Response to Reply #54 |
92. WHen did questioning the unreasonable become mockery? |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 01:13 PM Response to Reply #54 |
118. Y'all get mocked primarily when, as the OP did, you post something |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 08:17 PM Response to Reply #118 |
146. +10000000 n/t |
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FedUpWithIt All (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 11:59 PM Response to Reply #118 |
150. If i was mocked it wasn't sufficient enough to register on the radar. I didn't realize i had been. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 06:28 AM Response to Reply #150 |
152. Are you the OP? |
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FedUpWithIt All (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 10:08 AM Response to Reply #152 |
153. "y'all get mocked" Is speaking only of the OP? |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 01:03 PM Response to Reply #153 |
157. "y'all get mocked when as the OP did" |
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FedUpWithIt All (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-10 01:38 AM Response to Reply #157 |
161. When i saw your post i assumed |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 03:42 PM Response to Reply #54 |
142. And where on DU have you EVER |
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FedUpWithIt All (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 11:49 PM Response to Reply #142 |
149. First off, and this is getting old, the OP and i do not share "beliefs" |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 05:44 AM Response to Reply #149 |
151. You made an explicit claim |
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FedUpWithIt All (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 11:05 AM Response to Reply #151 |
154. "Don't whip it out in public", "I shouldn't have to hear it" |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 02:19 PM Response to Reply #154 |
158. You made an EXPLICIT claim |
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FedUpWithIt All (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-10 01:23 AM Response to Reply #158 |
160. I have already shown examples of an unwillingness by some here |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-10 05:00 PM Response to Reply #160 |
168. Hogwash |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-10 12:09 PM Response to Reply #54 |
164. Please explain how mockery violates someone's rights or denies them the ability to worship & love |
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Jim__ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
79. Hawking's statement is that the laws of cosmology "suggest" the universe can appear spontaneously. |
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FedUpWithIt All (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 10:42 AM Response to Reply #79 |
82. I agree with Hawking 100% n/t |
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Jim__ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 11:48 AM Response to Reply #82 |
106. I tend to agree with him too, with one big caveat. |
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ThomasQED (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 11:59 AM Response to Reply #106 |
109. They're working hard on that |
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Jim__ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 12:31 PM Response to Reply #109 |
117. Some aspects of String Theory are supposedly testable in the lab. |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
114. Not the same thing at all. |
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breadandwine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
119. ••• I know a lot of Hassidic Jews, serious mystics. They make mincemeat out of guys like Hawking ••• |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 01:33 PM Response to Reply #119 |
120. Um, no. Your argument, like all Creationist dogma, boils down to the God of the Gaps |
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breadandwine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 02:10 PM Response to Reply #120 |
121. Orrex, in the words of the Kotzker Rebbe, "There is nothing so crooked as a glib straight line." |
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breadandwine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 02:29 PM Response to Reply #121 |
122. By the way, Orrex. Einstein himself believed in God. |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 03:42 PM Response to Reply #122 |
124. Thats a bit of a stretch. |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 04:23 PM Response to Reply #122 |
128. By the way, breadandwine, no he didn't. |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 06:24 PM Response to Reply #122 |
129. here's what Einstein had to say about the bible: nothing more than primitive legends |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 04:22 PM Response to Reply #121 |
127. In fact Einstein considered his "greatest blunder" to be his positing of the cosmological constant |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 06:33 PM Response to Reply #127 |
130. I admire your patience |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-10 12:28 PM Response to Reply #121 |
165. Huh? |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 03:52 PM Response to Reply #119 |
125. what an astounding load of drivel. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 04:00 PM Response to Reply #119 |
126. Who created gravity? |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 07:09 PM Response to Reply #119 |
131. I think I am actually 10 IQ points lower now for having read that. |
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LAGC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 07:35 AM Response to Reply #119 |
134. What basis do you have to claim that its more likely that one religion is true than none of them? |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 03:56 PM Response to Reply #119 |
143. Your beloved mystics do nothing |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
123. god = nobody n/t |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
148. So are you presuming to speak for your god? |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
156. "I think Stephen stepped in just a little over his head." |
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Jim__ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-10 08:50 AM Response to Reply #156 |
172. "It is an evidence-driven conclusion." |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-11-10 01:14 AM Response to Reply #172 |
174. I know you werent asking me, but I'll answer all the same. |
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Jim__ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-11-10 04:05 PM Response to Reply #174 |
176. That's not what Hawking is talking about in his book. |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-10 12:58 PM Response to Reply #176 |
181. Comments on comments |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-11-10 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
175. An interesting thread. |
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truthteller50 (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-10 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
177. Evidence against everything Stephen Hawking said |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-12-10 06:40 PM Response to Reply #177 |
178. Let's assume for a moment that the laws of physics had to be created. |
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