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BeFree

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Mon Nov-15-10 04:01 PM
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Religions are Socialistic?

What is more socialistic than religion?

Socialism is about the good for all.
Religions are about good for all.

Religionism and socialism share more common ground than they have polar ideas?

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Ken Burch

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Mon Nov-15-10 04:03 PM
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1. Which is why somebody created THIS t-shirt:

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Mon Nov-15-10 04:11 PM
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2. The problem is if you try to tell the people that need to get then message,

they will argue with you.

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BeFree

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Mon Nov-15-10 04:21 PM
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6. That's why this OP

We have these religionists running around telling everyone how they should live.

And at the same time decrying socialism.
When what they are doing is using the worst of socialism to get their way.

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kestrel91316

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Mon Nov-15-10 04:24 PM
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8. Not quite correct. He was a Jewish COMMUNIST.

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thereismore

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Mon Nov-15-10 04:12 PM
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3. In the American dumbfuckistan, socialism has Stalin's face. The followers of Jesus actually

divided all their earthly possessions among themselves. They were communists, no doubt about it.

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MineralMan

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Mon Nov-15-10 04:13 PM
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4. Which religions? And which sects of those religions?

The statement is a little (way) too broad.

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BeFree

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Mon Nov-15-10 04:19 PM
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5. Ahh, the polar ideas part

In socialism the people decide what's best.

In religions, the elite make all those decisions.
Really, religions are like dictators when it comes to what's best for the people.

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MineralMan

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Mon Nov-15-10 04:40 PM
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9. That sounds more like what I've observed.

The difference between "religions" and "cults" is vanishingly small in many cases. Both always have seemed authoritarian to me.

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DeSwiss

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Mon Nov-15-10 04:23 PM
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7. K&R

Acts 2:44-45 And all that believed were together, and had all things common; And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.

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darkstar3

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Mon Nov-15-10 05:03 PM
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10. JESUS was the ultimate socialist.

Muhammed? Not so much.

Christianity, especially as practiced by the early church, and socialism share quite a lot of common ground. Not all religions, however, are remotely the same.

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Mon Nov-15-10 05:40 PM
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11. that`s why he was hung from the cross...

he was to dangerous for the romans and the pharisees to let him live

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darkstar3

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Mon Nov-15-10 05:49 PM
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12. I disagree.

I think he was hung on a cross because the tragic hero story called for a martyr.

But then I'm one of those fundamentalist atheists who doesn't actually believe Jesus existed as a real person. The character, though? He was a socialist through and through.

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laconicsax

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Mon Nov-15-10 08:15 PM
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13. Religions are about good for all?

Edited on Mon Nov-15-10 08:30 PM by laconicsax

Is that why the two largest religions in the world have inspired wars, torture, and mass killings? The first poster who asks "what about Stalin?" or blames atheism for the Holocaust is a moron.

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BeFree

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Mon Nov-15-10 08:31 PM
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14. Uhmmm

Can you say 'corruption'?

Religion is man seeking the source of man. Man made things are susceptible to man made corruption.

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laconicsax

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Mon Nov-15-10 09:13 PM
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15. So without human involvement, religion would be perfect?

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BeFree

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Mon Nov-15-10 09:27 PM
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16. 'Twouldn't even exist.

Totally man made. Without humans there would be no religion.

Neither would evil exist.

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laconicsax

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Mon Nov-15-10 11:02 PM
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17. I don't think you realize how you're contradicting yourself.

To say that it's the "man made" aspects of religion that cause the atrocities implies that there are non-man made aspects.

Religion is about petty in-group/out-group tribalism and superstition, both of which can directly lead to the "corruption" you blame, and neither of which are "good for all."

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BeFree

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Mon Nov-15-10 11:12 PM
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18. If you have a very narrow view, yes

Are you saying the religions Gods are the reason for the corruption?

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laconicsax

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Mon Nov-15-10 11:47 PM
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19. Umm...no.

The reason for the "corruption" is that religion is a primitive human construct. Gods aren't responsible for what people do any more than phlogiston is responsible for flammability.

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backscatter712

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Tue Nov-16-10 12:52 AM
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20. Religions are parasitic - that's why they demand you tithe.

Socialism is about the good for all.
Religion is about the good of the religion and the good of the priests/ministers/rabbis/mullahs/guys-in-funny-hats.

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Angry Dragon

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Tue Nov-16-10 12:56 AM
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21. Religion is nothing more than one aspect of mans' search

for the reason of exsistence

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Kennah

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Tue Nov-16-10 11:29 AM
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22. Either socialism or social democracy

Anthropocentric religions run the gamut in the way they are practiced, but even in Tea Bagger infested fundamentalist churches, like the Southern Baptists, it's somewhere between socialism and social democracy.

I think biocentric religions are also somewhere between socialism and social democracy, only I'd hazard a guess the biocentric religions have greater historical success in achieving the goal and serving the needs of the society.

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