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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 12:59 PM
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Anyone disagree with this?
"You are dust, and to dust you shall return." - Genesis 3:19

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 01:01 PM
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1. You are star stuff...
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 01:01 PM
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2. Conditionally, yes. n/t
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 01:02 PM
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3. You mean we're genetically similar to dirt? Holy Darwin Batman!
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jdlh8894 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 01:06 PM
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5. According to the RW's
We came from a "dirty"act.LOL
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 01:10 PM
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7. They are truly ashamed of the method by which God decided...
We should procreate.

I think that's why they aren't getting any... and they are hating on women and children for the same reason. No birth control, no abortions, no food for little babies cuz they don't want anyone else having sex either.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 01:06 PM
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4. Nope. That's about how it is.
A guy's got to make the most of his short time here, I say.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 01:08 PM
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6. Stardust
We are stardust, we are golden, we are billion year old carbon, and we got to get ourselves back to the garden!


I think I'll just post this in response to everything on DU today... so base, so minimalist, so fitting for all our woes.
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 01:14 PM
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9. We are woodstock.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 01:37 PM
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12. Oh, yes we are!
Chills... head to toe chills right now. When a song makes the hair on my arms stand up and wave, when a harmony gives me a tingle in the jaw until I smile, I know without question I could never ever survive this world without music.

Thanks, Jim_.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 01:14 PM
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8. Yeah, I do.
You really don't start out as dust, and you only end up as dust if you are cremated. You start out as a mass of rapidly dividing cells, and end up as a mass of rapidly degradation cells the eventually turn to mush. Not so much dusty as icky.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 01:27 PM
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10. That may be true
in a literal sense but I still ain't wiping that dirty crap on my forehead.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 01:28 PM
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11. define "disagree"....
I mean, it's a completely inaccurate statement-- there's no dust involved in organismal self-assembly (otherwise known as embryogenesis) and none to speak of in decay at the end of life, at least for most organisms.

On the other hand, I can more-or-less agree with the metaphor-- we are made of simpler components, i.e. heavy elements-- and the universe recycles them when we decay.
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 01:43 PM
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13. Hey! Who are you calling fat?
:hide:
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 02:43 PM
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14. You need to define "dust" before I can agree or disagree.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 03:14 PM
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15. Yes. Presently I am not dust. nt
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dimbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 08:46 PM
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16. That is likely the source of the old saying "Nature abhors a
vacuum cleaner."
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 08:48 PM
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17. Our reading today was from Matthew 6: "Consider the lilies of the field"
It's a lovely passage

But it always reminds me of the movie with Sidney Poitier, where some Western nuns pray for somebody to help build their church, and then Homer Smith happens to wander by. The story might have based on an old Western legend. Not long after I first saw the movie, I was in a small old New Mexican church with a beautiful and curious spiral staircase to the choir loft. The staircase was self-supporting: the wooden steps had simply been dovetailed together, without any props. The associated story was that an unknown woodworker had arrived while the church was being built and had constructed the staircase. His name was forgotten, so in the story he simply became St Joseph the carpenter
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 11:19 PM
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19. It's in the Loretto Chapel in Santa Fe
I've seen it. It's so narrow & steep, I can't imagine how the girls got up to the loft to sing during services. However, the staircase was way better than what they had used before--a ladder.

dg
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 01:29 AM
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20. Many thanks! I had forgotten completely where that was!
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 09:37 PM
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18. The claim works well as a metaphor, but I don't believe the claim is literally true. nt
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Meshuga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 02:13 PM
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23. I don't think the "claim" is even a claim
The point of the passage is to describe the new status of Adam and Eve in the story and how fragile their lives had become after they tried to be like god (by eating from the forbidden tree of knowledge). I don't think the authors were trying to make a scientific claim here. Although it was written by ancient Hebrews so there is a great chance that they believed such a thing (in a literal way) since they obviously didn't have the scientific knowledge that we have today.
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jeepnstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 11:57 AM
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21. It's a big part of how I view my world.
I got a few others I also have to constantly look up to remind myself I'm not such hot stuff.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 12:16 PM
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22. Not so fast. It fails on two counts.
It doesn't define "You", and it doesn't specify whether dust is the only component of "you".

IMO the essence of the self is not physical, and the body envelope does not define it. So this is a pithy aphorism, but outside the limited realm of reductionist, Cartesian materialism it has no meaning.
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Tyrs WolfDaemon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:22 PM
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24. The dust pile reminded me of this from Landover Baptist
http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0907/originofmankind.html

They even have a chart with which dirt was used for different people.
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