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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 01:44 PM
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Mrs. God
Edited on Sun Mar-20-11 01:49 PM by kpete
God had a partner called Asherah who was edited out of the Bible, claims theological scholar Francesca Stavrakopoulou. "He was also coupled with a goddess," said Stavrakopoulou. "She was worshipped alongside him in his temple in Jerusalem."

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By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 7:26 PM on 19th March 2011

A leading academic has claimed that God has a wife who was edited out of the Bible.

Atheist Dr Francesca Stavrakopoulou says that the Almighty, known as Yahweh, had a partner called Asherah who was worshipped.

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His wife was presented as a deity in Israel and someone who sat alongside him, according to journal articles and books by the scholar.

Dr Francesca Stavrakopoulou, who has been given a primetime BBC slot, also claims that Eve has been ‘unfairly maligned’ by ‘middle-aged bearded men’ and should not have been blamed for the Fall of Man.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1367981/Atheist-Dr-Francesca-Stavrakopoulout-BBC-face-religion.html#ixzz1HAOZ0xpA

(i am so glad its NOT our fault, kpete)
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 02:03 PM
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1. every since I read Merlin Stones' book, "When God was a Woman"...
I have had a very hard time with all the misogyny that is so obviously prevalent throughout most religion and religious denominations. It is a conscious effort intended to control women and leaves me full of contempt for those "middle aged bearded men" and others like them that propagate this crap.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 02:04 PM
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2. +1000
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 02:05 PM
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3. That book was a life changer for me.
As soon as I got over the outrage.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 02:31 PM
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5. Same here
It totally rocked my world at the time and in a good way it turns out.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 04:12 PM
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10. +1,000
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 02:14 PM
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4. An interesting book on this subject is "Did God Have a Wife" ...
by William G. Dever.


Did God Have a Wife?: Archaeology and Folk Religion in Ancient Israel

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Y%2BEIYO6VL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA300_SH20_OU01_.jpg

Product Description
Following up on his two recent, widely acclaimed studies of ancient Israelite history and society, William Dever here reconstructs the practice of religion in ancient Israel from the bottom up. Archaeological excavations reveal numerous local and family shrines where sacrifices and other rituals were carried out. Intrigued by this folk religion in all its variety and vitality, Dever writes about ordinary people in ancient Israel and their everyday religious lives. Did God Have a Wife? shines new light on the presence and influence of women's cults in early Israel and their implications for our understanding of Israel's official Book religion. Dever pays particular attention to the goddess Asherah, reviled by the authors of the Hebrew Bible as a foreign deity but, in the view of many modern scholars, popularly envisioned in early Israel as the consort of biblical Yahweh. His work also gives new prominence to women as the custodians of Israel's folk religion. The first book by an archaeologist on ancient Israelite religion, this fascinating study critically reviews virtually all of the archaeological literature of the past generation, while also bringing fresh evidence to the table. Though Dever digs deep into the past, his discussion is extensively illustrated, unencumbered by footnotes, and vivid with colorful insights. Meant for professional and general audiences alike, Did God Have a Wife? is sure to spur wide and passionate debate.
About the Author

William G. Dever recently retired as professor of Near Eastern archaeology and anthropology at the University of Arizona in Tucson. He has served as director of the Nelson Glueck School of Biblical Archaeology in Jerusalem, as director of the W. F. Albright Institute of Archaeological Research in Jerusalem, and as a visiting professor at universities around the world. He has spent thirty years conducting archaeological excavations in the Near East, resulting in a large body of award-winning fieldwork. --This text refers to the Hardcover edition.
http://www.amazon.com/Did-God-Have-Wife-Archaeology/dp/0802863949/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1300648331&sr=8-1
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 02:41 PM
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6. Recommend
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MellowOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 03:00 PM
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7. Totally confused
" Atheist Dr Francesca Stavrakopoulou says that the Almighty, known as Yahweh, had a partner called Asherah who was worshipped."

If Dr. Stravakopoulous is an athesist then he is writing a book about Yahweh who doesn't exist.
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Mariana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 08:31 PM
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14. I don't understand why you're totally confused.
Why shouldn't she write about Yahweh just because Yahweh isn't real? Dr. Stavrakopoulou certainly isn't the first person to write a book about some fictional character, and about the stories featuring that character.
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MellowOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:16 PM
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16. Oh, now I get it
The book is just a fairy tale. So sorry I was under the impression we we're suppose to view her writing as fact.
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Mariana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 03:43 PM
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19. No, she's writing a nonfiction book about a fairy tale.
The fairy tales about Yahweh have had profound effects on people and I think they're a reasonable subject for study. It's not necessary to believe Yahweh is real to write about him. The stories exist, and the effects of those stories exist, even if the character does not.

As I said, she's not the first person to do this kind of thing. There are nonfiction books about the character Harry Potter as he is portrayed in Rowling's novel. Harry Potter isn't real, either.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 07:28 AM
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20. No, she's not writing a book; she's an academic presenting a TV documentary
about the origins of Judaism and Christianity (and, to a less extent, Islam). What she is saying is that many Israelites were worshipping Asherah alongside El/Yahweh less than 3000 years ago, and that there's no evidence that Judaic monotheism was an import to the region (either with an arrival of Abraham from Mesopotamia, or Moses from Egypt) as the Bible claims, but, instead, a gradual development from Canaanite polytheism, which was only fully enforced when Judah fell to the Babylonians.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 09:52 AM
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21. Does that mean Christians are not allowed to study ancient Greek mythology?
One can discover and study the religious beliefs of a culture without believing in them herself.
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demigoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 10:54 AM
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22. I would say, without having read the book, that the author is writing about
THE WORSHIP of a deity, without saying the deity actually exists. Believers often cannot cover this subject because they are so much into the belief and what is the right belief that they cannot cover the subject very well.
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left is right Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 03:57 PM
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8. She is right about Eve
God gave the command to only Adam and not to Eve. She only had Adam’s word on the issue. On the other hand, the good doctor is wrong about Asherah. She was the sister/wife of Baal. Both were fertility gods and they both show up under a variety of spellings in many of the regional religions
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 04:17 PM
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11. If only Eve had had a sassy gay friend....
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left is right Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 06:26 PM
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12. great youtube hadn’t seen it before
and most of us (women) need at least one sassy gay friend; perhaps then we wouldn’t make so many poor decisions about men, fashion, and lifestyles
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 06:36 PM
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13. Here's one that's even funnier...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwnFE_NpMsE

There are about 4 or so others as well...

The "Othello" one is my favorite.
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dimbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 08:51 PM
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15. It's a little more complex than that..........
If we can believe the Ugarit inscriptions, Asherah was the consort of Baal, the mother of Yahweh, and the consort of Yahweh. One of those Oedipal things that were so common in the old days.

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Bryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 04:12 PM
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9. I love this part by Barbara Walker
Barbara Walker, a scholar, wrote in one of her books re: bible archaeology/mythology (book: Restoring the Goddess: Equal Rites for Modern Women (2000)

"...then, craziest of all, there was the story of a unique male childbirth (Gen. 2:21-22) that made Eve the daughter of Adam, and their union, therefore, an incestuous one. I found out only years later that the Adam's rib story was concocted especially to give man primacy over woman, but the biblical version wasn't original. It was copied from a much older Babylonian myth of the Goddess Nin-Ti, "Lady of the Rib," who invented childbirth by allowing woman to form their babies' bones in utero out of their own maternal ribs."

"Patriarchal Adam himself was a transformation of an earlier female principle of birth giving, Adamah, meaning "bloody clay," which male scholars more delicately translated "red earth" to disguise its original implications...."
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Vehl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:44 PM
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17. There is a lot of copy-paste in the old/new testaments
A good example is the story of Noah. Its an almost exact(except for the name change) retelling of the Sumerian/babylonian story of Utnapishtim/zizudra, found in the Epic of Gilgamesh, which precedes the Noah's story by nearly 2 millenia.

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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 10:09 PM
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18. According to mainstream Christian Churches ...
Jesus was God, and Jesus didn't have a wife. Jesus didn't even have access to internet porn.
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