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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 02:22 PM Original message |
Who else is tired of the words, "This all part of God's plan" and |
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asjr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
1. I'm more tired of God told me |
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hifiguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
2. I write off anyone who spews that kind of |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 04:50 PM Response to Reply #2 |
41. +1 |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-16-11 10:24 AM Response to Reply #2 |
55. Such a person might not be an imbecile at all |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
3. Starving kids in Africa are part of god's plan |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 02:40 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. I feel you on this. I ask that question regularly. If God is a loving God then why does he murder |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 02:56 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Lately |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 03:00 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. We humans are violent, and have terrorized this planet for centuries, |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 03:36 PM Response to Reply #9 |
28. I don't see God murdering anyone. I do however see people doing |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 03:41 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. But he set the rules...that means he created free will, thereby creating evil. |
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thereismore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-16-11 08:28 AM Response to Reply #28 |
51. God has full control over his creation, being omnipotent and all. He is just |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-16-11 10:30 AM Response to Reply #28 |
56. Like all of those earthquakes and volcanous and tornados and floods... |
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okasha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-16-11 11:39 AM Response to Reply #56 |
60. Why are natural processes "an evil?" |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-16-11 01:21 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. This thread isn't about the existence of just any god, but a god with a "plan" |
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okasha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-16-11 01:41 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. But that's not what you said. |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-16-11 02:29 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Not the natural processes themselves... |
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thereismore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-16-11 08:25 AM Response to Reply #3 |
50. Be of good cheer! God will deal with the Devil in the end times, which are near. |
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RandySF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
4. "Everything happens for a reason". |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 03:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
29. so many people believe this. |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-16-11 10:35 AM Response to Reply #4 |
57. I hate the way that phrase is used. |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 01:07 PM Response to Reply #57 |
69. People accept God murdering millions of people to appreciate the few |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
5. There are so many people who are looking forward to the end of the world. It is insane. |
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arbusto_baboso (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 02:40 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. How much must your life suck if you look forward to the world ending? |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 02:46 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. I am tired of these people trying to ruin the world for you and I. |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
6. but those words are just part of God's plan. |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
7. I'm tired of "god" anything. nt |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 02:41 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. People use these words to justify the repukes actions. To justify Ayn Rand. |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
12. I try to imagine God staring over his Gant chart. |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 02:55 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Omg! |
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Morning Dew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
15. I'm tired of it... |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 03:02 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Of course, everything you do is part of God's plan and God knows what |
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Morning Dew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 03:06 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. I have the free will to do what God knows I am going to do because God planned it |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 03:10 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. But if he knows what you are going to do then God creates evil people, but if you say they |
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Morning Dew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 03:15 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. I know, I am confused as well. |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 03:18 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. I agree, and everything we mentioned proves my point that religion is holding the planet back. |
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arbusto_baboso (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
17. God having a "plan" implies that God has any competence whatsoever. |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 03:04 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. If you ask a christian the world proves how much he loves us. |
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Scuba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
24. Article 34, Section 11, Paragraph B.32, sub-paragraph g.9..... |
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deutsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
25. If this is God's plan, it demonstrates incredible lack of imagination |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 03:32 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Destruction, Destruction, and more Destruction. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
27. frankly, God doesn't have a 'plan'. He gave us free will and I believe |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 03:37 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Depends on who you ask. |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 04:16 PM Response to Reply #27 |
38. So to be clear ... once God set things in motion, he stepped off stage. |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-17-11 09:38 AM Response to Reply #38 |
65. That works for me. |
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thereismore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-16-11 08:29 AM Response to Reply #27 |
52. Oh really. So an earthquake that kills children is a product of our free will. Go figure. nt |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-16-11 10:39 AM Response to Reply #52 |
58. Didn't you know earthquakes are caused by capitalism? :) n/t |
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thereismore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-17-11 11:46 PM Response to Reply #58 |
66. I thought they were caused by the gays. Like hurricanes. |
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PhillySane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
31. The guys who invented credit default swaps |
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hifiguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
33. Epicurus said it best some 2300 years ago: |
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Rageneau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 03:55 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Except that God is on record saying "My ways are not your ways"... |
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hifiguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 04:06 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. If that is what you call "on the record" |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 04:24 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Didn't he also "made us in his image"?? |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 05:38 PM Response to Reply #35 |
45. Except that organized religion is based on |
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Permanut (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
34. At the risk of invoking Godwin's Law: |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
37. The noiton of God is an invention of the fearful mind. |
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Scottybeamer70 (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
40. Just saw this quote today........ |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 05:34 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. A similar statement, made earlier. |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-16-11 10:42 AM Response to Reply #40 |
59. There's a more cruelly phrased version of that same basic sentiment... |
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fiberlady (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
42. What I learned growing up with this type of statement was |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
44. It's a way to be completely irresponsible. To say you have no control over your life. |
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RandySF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-16-11 02:29 AM Response to Reply #44 |
48. A lot of cultures are like this |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-11 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
46. We've been living in the last days for millennia. |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-16-11 12:32 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. lol, ain't that the truth. |
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thereismore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-16-11 08:30 AM Response to Reply #46 |
53. It only took 2000 years. Can't be much longer. |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-16-11 07:58 AM Response to Original message |
49. Ah, but being tired of the words "This is all part of God's plan"... |
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thereismore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-16-11 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
54. Earthquakes, mudslides, volcanoes. Children die. Either God can't prevent it, which makes him |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 11:56 AM Response to Reply #54 |
68. Fairy tales trump common sense. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-16-11 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
64. Honestly, I can see why Nero wanted to set the Christians on fire |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-18-11 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
67. George Carlin got it right: |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
70. If it's all part of god's plan, then he's a shitty planner |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 08:06 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Allowing right wingers to run the world is a good enough reason for me. |
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