Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

The Atheist Chaplain

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Religion/Theology Donate to DU
 
cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 11:37 AM
Original message
The Atheist Chaplain
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 01:21 PM
Response to Original message
1. "ill-conceived needless criminal waste of blood and treasure" pretty much defines war
I'd be happy to see more sermons like this, but we won't ever see them from military chaplains, even if the military ever allows atheist chaplains
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 01:44 PM
Response to Original message
2. Declaring himself the Atheist Chaplain
Was one of the 213 things Skippy was not allowed to do in the U.S. Army.

http://skippyslist.com/list/

TlalocW
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 02:23 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. That was Pretty Funny, Sir! Thank You
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
fmiddel Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 05:19 PM
Response to Original message
4. Good toon cleanhippie
There are a few real life atheist chaplains I’m sure. My own flavour is atheistic Pentecostal.

Fred Middel
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Curmudgeoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 07:02 PM
Response to Original message
5. Invisible sky friend----bwahahaha.
Gotta love it. :rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 09:27 PM
Response to Original message
6. A Chaplain and an Atheist Go to War .
Edited on Mon Jun-20-11 09:52 PM by onager
Great article in the WSJ (of all places).

The chaplain is a Navy lieutenant and a serious god-botherer. The Chaplain's Assistant is a Navy enlisted man and hardcore atheist.

Interesting to me - the atheist spent his teen years in Greenville, SC - about 50 miles from where I grew up, and the home of Bob Jones University.

Note that the Gunnery Sergeant quoted in the article is an agnostic. When I was in the Marines, I knew quite a few non-believers in the ranks. The USMC overall isn't too big on theology. Unless you count useful inspirational proverbs like: "A sucking chest wound is Nature's way of saying 'you fucked up.'"

A Chaplain and an Atheist Go to War

Navy Chaplain Terry Moran is steeped in the Bible and believes all of it. His assistant, Religious Programs Specialist 2nd Class Philip Chute, is steeped in the Bible and having none of it.

"He trusts God to keep him safe," says RP2 Chute. "And I'm here just in case that doesn't work out."


:rofl:

Lt. Moran takes the Bible at its word, rejects the evolution of species and believes the Earth to be 6,000 years old. He carries a large Bible with him into the combat zone, while RP2 Chute totes writings of Richard Dawkins, the evolutionary biologist and fierce critic of the notion that God designed the universe...

At first the chaplain got the sense RP2 Chute was agnostic. "I can work with that," Lt. Moran recalls thinking.

But a few days later RP2 Chute dropped the A bomb: He was an atheist.

Appalled, Lt. Moran contacted his fellow chaplains. He says he was simply seeking counsel about whether atheists can really be chaplain's assistants. RP2 Chute is convinced Lt. Moran was trying to trade him in for a believer.

RP2 Chute was senior among Lt. Moran's possible assistants. More importantly, he already had two combat tours under his belt, while Lt. Moran hadn't yet seen a bullet fly. In the end, Lt. Moran says, he chose experience over faith.


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703467004575463833265055248.html
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 09:38 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. The Chaplains Assitant was not a Marine NCO.
He was a Navy Second Class Petty Officer. RP2 is a rating designator, in this case, RP = Religious Program and 2 = Second Class Petty Officer.

Just clearing that part up. (FWIW, I spent 21 years in the Navy and retired a Chief Petty Officer.)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 09:44 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. Whoops! Thanks!
Edited on Mon Jun-20-11 09:53 PM by onager
That was embarassing. To be corrected by a former member of the junior Naval Service...:P

On edit: I was so embarassed, I corrected the original post. And I will now go and do 100 bends-and-thrusts. Well, fifty...or so. And put myself on firewatch for the night...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 10:03 AM
Response to Reply #8
10. Thems fighting words!!!!
"junior Naval Service"?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AlecBGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 10:52 PM
Response to Reply #7
9. 21 years!?
:patriot:

My dad was a lieutenant, stationed in Iceland and Norway during the late 60's/early 70's listening for Soviet subs. He has lots of good memories from his time in the service. How was your experience IYDMMA?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 10:03 AM
Response to Reply #9
11. Best time of my life.
Wouldn't trade the experiences for anything.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sun May 05th 2024, 10:12 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Religion/Theology Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC