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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 09:57 AM
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Something we can all agree on: Your favorite house of worship, from a design perspective
Edited on Tue Jun-28-11 09:57 AM by Taverner




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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 09:59 AM
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1. jesus is quoted as saying go pray in your closet and use your wealth to help poorer people lol nt
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 11:50 AM
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15. Yes but Frank Lloyd Wright said...
"Early in life I had to choose between honest arrogance and hypocritical humility. I chose the former and have seen no reason to change."
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 10:00 AM
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3. The cathedral of St. John the Divine in NYC is pretty impressive.
So is the Hagia Sophia:

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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 10:34 AM
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11. Admire that mosque (former church) all you want -- just don't ask me to eat haggis.
Edited on Tue Jun-28-11 10:35 AM by damntexdem
Not even for Sophia. ;-)

And St. John the Refined is less flashy. ;-)
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 11:51 AM
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16. Give me flashy overkill any day
When's the last time you felt humbled by a one room adobe hut? :rofl:
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 10:10 AM
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4. One I see on a regular basis




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Lionessa Donating Member (842 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 10:12 AM
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5. The best house of worship is no house at all, or a cathedral, or even
a church. The only places that have ever nudged me at all to believe in a higher being... is far from humanity in the glory of nature, whether it be desert, mountain, forest, or ocean.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 11:52 AM
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17. Being an Atheist I could care less how close to "god" I feel
So give me wretched excess, and flashy overkill

Give me the Pantheon of Rome...
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Lionessa Donating Member (842 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 01:44 PM
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24. I'm also an atheist. But there are some places I've been that have
been so beyond awesome, I can't find a better word than "divine".
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 02:03 PM
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25. I can! I can! "Humbling"
And that's how I feel every time I look at this:







Or this:



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Lionessa Donating Member (842 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 02:45 PM
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27. Great word, I'll use it instead.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 10:12 AM
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6. Trinity Lavra of St. Sergius at Zagorsk
Edited on Tue Jun-28-11 10:17 AM by Brickbat
I love the blue domes with stars.


I also like Sacre Coeur in Paris.


I loved Troitsky Sobor in St. Petersburg and was sad when it burned; it was a landmark for me.


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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 10:13 AM
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7. Anywhere in this area is a good place to worship your preferred religion.
Edited on Tue Jun-28-11 10:13 AM by Lint Head
It contains all of the design elements needed to meditate, pray or just breath.


The time and money it takes to help the poor and unfortunate is sacrificed for the money and time it takes to build opulent designs that a real spiritual omnipresent being couldn't care less about.
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 11:15 AM
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14. But ask yourself:
The time and money it takes to help the poor and unfortunate is sacrificed for the money and time it takes to build opulent designs that a real spiritual omnipresent being couldn't care less about.


That statement of yours is true. Some small percentage of the poor for a handful of generations was somewhat more poor than they might have been because the powers of the church decided to pay Bernini for this instead:



But we still have this now, and those poor are long gone to be replaced by many more, who will be replaced by still more. But in all history, who else would and could have created St Peters?

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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 11:56 AM
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19. I know I know...but the Pyramids were built for the most narcissistic of reasons
Edited on Tue Jun-28-11 11:58 AM by Taverner
And most likely, by slaves - but you can still appreciate them
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 10:14 AM
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8. Is "Awesome!" a form of worship?
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Silent3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 10:15 AM
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9. Here...







Just kidding. :)
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LeftinOH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 10:23 AM
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10. Sagrada Familia:
Stunning -and it's not even finished yet!

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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 11:54 AM
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18. Ahhh Gaudi!
Love his stuff
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 03:57 PM
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28. I normally do - and this one is mostly cool, but I dislike the studded wheels atop the spires. nt
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 10:40 AM
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12. my vote goes to the Pantheon in Rome
Edited on Tue Jun-28-11 10:44 AM by eShirl
http://www.italyguides.it/us/roma/pantheon.htm

"The Pantheon is the Roman monument with the greatest number of records: the best preserved, with the biggest brick dome in the history of architecture and is considered the forerunner of all modern places of worship. It is the most copied and imitated of all ancient works.

Michelangelo felt it was the work of angels, not men."


(He likes it! Hey Mikey!)


"On entering the door, the effect you feel is meant to be overwhelming. You suddenly find yourself in this huge empty space which causes vertigo and makes you feel tiny. This is how you were supposed to feel in front of the gods and anyone going in today can have the same sensation as the Romans did almost 2000 years ago.

The space is a perfect sphere symbolising the vault of heaven; the height of the dome is the same as its diameter creating perfect balance and unique harmony; it is round so as to place all gods at the same level of importance."



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CJvR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 07:13 AM
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36. Well lets not forget...
...that for most of western history, a thousand years, it was also to largest domed structure in the world. The loss of the Roman skills in making concrete made it impossible to duplicate or surpass the Pantheon. Even today it is still the largest unreinforced concrete dome on the planet - and likely to remain so since noone will ever get permission to build something like it ever again.
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 11:08 AM
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13. I like lots of them.
Externally as a building per se



Internally



Personally



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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 11:38 PM
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37. #1 is Florence Cathedral; #2 is St. Peter's in Rome. What are the other two?
Thanks!
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 06:02 AM
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39. both are York Minster in northern England
first building I was really impressed by as a kid - amazing for 13th Century. I grew up not far from there.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 12:23 PM
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20. St. Vincent Ferrer Church in NYC


My home parish.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 12:32 PM
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21. PING onager: The Temple of Philae in Aswan, Egypt.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 12:33 PM
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22. Wow - that is far better preserved than any Egyptian Ruins I've ever seen
Granted, all I've "seen" up close and personal were Giza and the Sphinx

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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 08:26 PM
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30. Thanks! Here's my nomination...
:hi:

Underground remains of the Serapeum in Alexandria - which housed the last remnants of the great Alexandria Library. According to the experts, those niches in the walls once held scrolls/manuscripts. In another chamber there's a huge stone "conference table."

I spent many hours walking around that place. Truly inspirational - I got all the awed, tingly feelings the religious often describe in churches, only without any of the underLYING supernatural bullshit.

Speaking of which...the Serapeum was named for Serapis, a god completely invented by the ruling Ptolemies in Alexandria. According to some historians, this brand-new god was a hard sell at first. Neither the Greeks nor the native Egyptians liked him very much. But within a couple of generations, he had temples all over the Mediterranean area.

My other favorite places in Alex - Quitbay Fort, built atop the ruins of the Pharos Lighthouse. And the downright psychedelic multi-story underground tombs of Kom el-Shuqafa, where Graeco-Roman and ancient Egyptian religious symbology is all mixed up in a big, colorful mash. One shrine down there features a bin of mixed human and horse bones. It's a shrine to Nemesis. Who, aside from being a goddess you didn't want to screw around with, was the patron of jockeys and horse racing.

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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 01:07 PM
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23. I'm a fan of the huge catholic kind....
....which are basically giant pipe organs with seats inside.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 02:22 PM
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26. A basement with D&D books, a case of soda, a little weed, and a few friends. nt
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dimbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 07:16 PM
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29. Khajuraho Temple complex
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 09:38 PM
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31. THAT would be cool to see. Have you ever seen Angkor Wat?
I saw that in 94

Amazing. Those complexes just go on!

I saw some very striking things in Cambodia
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 10:10 PM
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32. Bet this place is pretty awesome.


;)
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dimbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 10:35 PM
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34. Unfortunately, only this continent and this planet. Homebody. n/t
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 10:25 PM
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33. Reims Cathedral
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 10:41 PM
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35. some others I have seen and liked
Fez, Morrocco.



I didn't see this interior view.



San Juan Capistrano Mission chapel



Sainte Chapelle, Paris




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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 11:43 PM
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38. St. Patrick's Cathedral in NYC is awesome.
I love to go in old cathedrals and check out the artwork.

I've also been to the cathedral in St. Louis, which is Romanesque on the outside, has two green tiled domes, and is nearly all mosaic on the inside, with side chapels designed by Louis Comfort Tiffany.

And the white marble cathedral in Denver.

Christ Church Episcopal Cathedral in Houston was built in the 1880s, and has that 14th century bramble bush look inside, and lots of different sorts of stained glass windows. it's one of the few places in Houston that transports you back in time.

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