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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 05:28 AM
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Benedict XVI arrives in Madrid after anti-papal protest ends in violence
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Pope Benedict XVI on Thursday began a four-day official visit to Madrid after violent clashes the previous day between police and demonstrators protesting the cost of his visit in a country still struggling to recover from its worst recession in decades.

The 84-year-old pontiff was met at Barajas International Airport by King Juan Carlos and Queen Sofía and some 2,000 young pilgrims from among the hundreds of thousands in the Spanish capital to celebrate the Catholic Church's annual World Youth Day (WYD) event.

In the first of nine speeches and three sermons he is scheduled to deliver while in Madrid, Benedict XVI addressed the economic crisis on a day in which the world's stock markets suffered heavy losses on fears of a renewed global recession. "The economic crisis is also one of ethics, without which the economy cannot survive," he said. The pope's visit is estimated to have cost 50 million euros.

Prior to the pope's arrival from Rome at midday, Cabinet Secretary Ramón Jáuregui reiterated the government's hope that Benedict XVI's message in Spain would be of a "global nature" rather than focusing on issues particular to Spain, where the Socialist government has clashed with the Church over issues such as the legalization of gay marriage, abortion on demand, stem-cell research and fast-track divorce legislation.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 07:39 AM
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1. Those hundred of thousands of kids bring hundreds of millions of Euros
And the idiots get violent saying Spain can't afford World Youth Day. Absolute stupidity is international
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 07:54 AM
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2. They'd be very unlikely to be spending a thousand euros each
so your 'hundreds of millions of euros' guess looks very unlikely. These are not children of American megapreachers who have money to burn.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 08:38 AM
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3. In any event, the multiplier effect will make the total worth
hundreds of millions to the Spanish economy.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 08:44 AM
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4. Or maybe not; the recent British royal wedding was blamed for cutting the GDP
because people took time off, and that overwhelmed any extra economic activity. Celebrations that involve lots of official spending on security etc. are somewhat wasteful. They'd be better off with something that has a tangible result - fixing some roads or something.

If the Spanish youth are mostly unemployed (highly likely), then there won't be much economic activity lost, but neither will there be much money spent.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 07:06 PM
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6. I don't know about that. and it is two different things. But it's still new money
Edited on Fri Aug-19-11 07:13 PM by Gman
as opposed to internal money and productivity. World Youth Day draws hundreds of thousands of people from all over the globe. It's not just an event restricted to residents of Spain. and they all bring money.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 01:14 PM
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5. I think Gay Pride parades are more effective in that respect.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 07:07 PM
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7. It depends
Edited on Fri Aug-19-11 07:09 PM by Gman
if the parade is compose of predominantly locals then the participants have chosen to spend their money in the area and on things related to the parade rather than their next best thing they could be spending it on in the local economy. There would be little new money flowing in and likely a negligible effect on the economy. If it's an event that draws people from all over, they bring money in that is not already in the local economy. The new money is (literally) a type of "stimulus".
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 11:03 PM
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8. the pope is a fine one to talk about ethics
I am still searching the internet to find anything about the church and ethics...........

Nothing yet
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