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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 04:11 PM
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Despite my Atheism, I do firmly believe there is a part of religion that is beautiful
That would be the storytelling aspect of it.

Jesus was a storyteller. Siddartha Guatama was a storyteller. Paul of Tarsus was a storyteller. Dante was a storyteller. Martin Luther was a storyteller. Mohammed was a storyteller.

The storytelling aspect of religion, as essential as it is, is also something that can be enjoyed by the non-believer.

That is all.
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 04:21 PM
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1. I'm a vehement atheist....
..and as much as I believe that religion has caused a lot of horrible things in the world, I also can't deny that it's inspired some of the greatest art in the world, in all disciplines.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 04:42 PM
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Yep. Milton, Dante, Khalil Gibran...
Not to mention the holy writ themselves

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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 09:40 PM
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16. Van Morrison...Bob Dylan...early U2......
The list is full and long.
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 04:28 PM
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2. Agreed. I recently saw an academic presentation on this
From an anthropological POV, developing a belief system with a common code of ethics and spending time as a group with a common stories and rituals was a way of "artifying" cohesiveness.
Sharing stories with lessons, etc. was an adaptive practice that led to community development and responsibility.
Given the current state, it's easy to forget that the goals were originally positive.
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Stargleamer Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 04:37 PM
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3. The Santa Claus part has always had an appeal n/t
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 04:42 PM
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4. Yes. Some Biblical stories compare favorably with Greek myths
Edited on Fri Sep-16-11 04:42 PM by RufusTFirefly
Not surprising, really. At the risk of over-simplifying and offending, I consider them rough equivalents.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 04:43 PM
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5. Hercules/Samson, Zeus/Yahweh...
There are more - it's Friday...
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 04:48 PM
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6. Agreed. The Hero with a Thousand Faces and all that
There are a number of fascinating books and videos that address common themes and narrative elements that run throughout mythology, including the Judeo-Christian variety.
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Silent3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 04:56 PM
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7. There's also the architecture and the music...
...which I suppose can be seen as extensions of the storytelling.
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Leontius Donating Member (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 05:06 PM
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8. And what do those stories, the truly great stories, tell?
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tama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 05:12 PM
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9. It's been said
that we can comprehend myths or "truly great stories" only by living and experiencing them.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 05:26 PM
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11. Depends on your preference. I kind of like a semi-rational take on religion like Dante
Fill in the gaps with people who pissed you off in life...



One could base an entire sub-genre on this - kind of like how Steampunk shot off of Cyberpunk with "The Difference Engine"
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 05:25 PM
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10. I like it when religions cross religious lines and love all people in the world..not just their own.
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Jester Messiah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 05:35 PM
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12. Maybe, but you have to ask yourself "is it worth the rest?"
It comes as a package deal.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 05:44 PM
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13. Is Zeus worth the rest?
I have no problem relegating religion to the same place we place the The Peloponnesian War and The Odyssey.

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Uncle Omar Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 07:32 PM
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14. I like ice cream
My favoriate is rocky road
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 08:01 PM
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15. Don't forget the grand architecture.
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