Why the "talking points" hate threads on all Christians & Religious?

Is it because:

JOKE JOKE JOKE!!!!

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Ok, so you are agnostic. But what do you believe?



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We need an evilgrin hiding smilie.

there. I believe Jesus walked on the earth and was a great person. I believe much of the bible comes from real stories and myths (which can be true) but that much of it was oral tradition from places like Summaria and not just from Israel way. I believe some of the golden rule values were amazing human ideals and that we should still follow some of those monotheistic threads to this day. I think religion is a capacity - like athletism. But it has the power do do more if intrinsic.

I don't know if that amazing entitiy who started time and space is actually a creator - perhaps there is another concept out there that we do not know about that started the whole thing.

I am a humanist. That is my religion. And I'll defend free speech and freedom of religion.

What do you believe right now. None of us know. Perhaps is not an active belief. You may change your mind in a few minutes. But right now right here while you are reading this your current collection of thoughts and ideas balances out one way or the other. A statement of belief is in no way binding. It is merely a reflection of what you currently hold to be true.

lifetime. So I will not worry one wink about it. Because it is beyond all a scientists. And the momment my lights go out - I will neither return as a kangaroo or go to some heavenly place. When my lights go out - my humanity is only in the mind's eye of the people who knew me or someone who does genealogy and trips over my name. The momment the lights go out I become only the molecules that make up my body and get disperced to the winds. Chances are a water molecule that was in me at one point in my life may be in the air conditioning system of the scientists who figure it out in 10,000 years. But that is as close as I will ever be to knowing. And it will only be as one water molecule that was once in me. I will not be able to take any of it in. So I have no reason to think about it or be there. Only when I am asked to compare and contrast myself with others over religion does the issue come up for me.

So I will never know. And I don't need to. There is so much else to find out that is possible. The science and humanity to come - the way Africa might just be lifted into middle class life - in many small ways - over my life. The need for abortions being nil once the great man centric science solves the issue of loose sperm. That criminals will no longer get away with lies. That sickness will be minimized in as many ways as it has in the past 300 years. That kids will grow up talking over their unique passions with a Mongolian kid or a chileian kid - over the net. All these answers in my lifetime - in the next 50 years. All of this I can wait for and be excited about. All of this will happen. And it will bring me happiness and joy.

You are never alone when you read. And that someone standing beside me may get something different out of life and their beliefs and where they venture and suss. And that if that brings them joy - I will be as thrilled for them as I am for myself.

I would not argue your point as to whether anyone will ever know. I would suggest that we are on the same page with this issue. But that is not the question I asked.

I asked what do you believe. Belief and knowledge are two different things. And claiming you do not know what you believe is not an answer. You do know what you believe at this moment. And that is the question. What do you believe?

of science, biology, physics, etc. every day. So too miracle of love and human emotion - the miracle on community. It is not hard to believe it is a miracle of sorts. But I don't know what it is. And I feel no need to venture into parts that will remain unknown to me.

Sorry. Sorry my answer causes you anxiety. It does not worry me one bit. Cause the original miracle/science - it does not matter to my life - since it will never be known during my life - to me. And as to religion - that give instrinsic believers strength ... that is a miracle too. Just as monotheism came up with great ways to get people to live well (well better) together. And it tries today. And I'll rag on something dangerous and evil - like Catholic church being against all birth control. Cause that kills people.

I'm sorry. I am stuck here in the present. I believe in good information. I dislike bad. And I am prepared to admit when I don't know the answer and sit with that.

I just don't think you realise it.

the throne of evil. Evil is like cheney or Rove. They don't think they are evil. They think they are important and great.

One has to consider. Which is actually more evil? Someone that plays at denying they are evil and yet their every action reaks of evil. So much so that few if any are decieved by them. Or someone that is not as perceptibly evil. Perhaps even claims to be evil. But works only with truth as far as any can percieve. But woven in such a way as to create a long term goal which is as yet hidden to those caught in their web.


Ooops.. I said too much. :evilgrin:

keep saying you are.

I think we can all agree that evil is the one who goes to work and pretends to be somewhat normal - but murders vulnerable women in their free time, or attacks someone they perceive has having hurt their brittle ego - by perhaps not being attracted by cruelty (I hear some women actually are) - so that she and her life have to be dissembled - friend by friend (cause that is her strength) to satisfy the evil person's critical and evil need to have is ego assuaged for something the object of his hatred didn't do to him.

Evil is someone like this - or Hitler - who scapegoat. Who see themselves as worthy of all manner of adulation and then meticulously and over decades destroy some other who is supposed to take on all of the the issue the evil person cannot integrate into themselves (having such a brittle ego that only room for adulation and a zero to 100 vanity existence takes place every day - so all bad habits and faults must be projected onto "jews" or "some unknowing women" in increasing frequency and frenzy - so that the evil person does not have to deal with his self esteem issues. And these attacks and the pain it causes (as if Rove never destroyed anybodies life) go on for decades as the enemy is shut out of life and living according to their strengths and in some cases living.

Or what about some evil person that was under investigation for a crime and decided it must have been person x who turned them in... because person x witnessed the narcissistic explotion that they ususally save for - frenzytime - and then moved puppets into this person's life to asses the damage and destroy the person. And destroy all the people who are around this person? What if - just as the attack and mobbing was getting going - the people sent into this victim's life - asked questions like "hey - x, have you ever been suicidal?". Is that evil?

They do not see what event may have happened to trigger such posts.

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Then you should have no trouble providing us with examples of this so-called "trend".

But I was already speaking up a bit too much for the OP IMO.

in the last few days. I hope it turns out not to be a trend. I hope I am wrong.

That would make me happy.

propping them up.

The op just accused me of attacking religious people in another thread.

I have yet to see examples of either claim.

I have seen two potentially inflamatory threads today in GD. The ideas may have had some points but their presentation created a theater of confrontation. But this hardly constitutes a trend.

As with all things it is a matter of presentation. Rocky Mountain Oysters are a delicacy to some.

to be a trend. Poor admin. They were not put on this planet to babysit adults. Unfortunately - sometimes it is needed.

So I missed the fun.

They seemed to reflect the opinion of the ops, not representative of DU in general.

Just because a few theists here are threatened by us, I don't assume all DUers are that insecure.

going a great job of keeping us on the up and up. Thanks Admin.

my poll. I want all DUers who care to get a chance to answer. If I thought the message was not important.. I would not have posted it.

claim to get in the way of a perfectly good straw man ...

Loosen up. Get down and get funk-ay!

Christians are not used to having their beliefs questioned. This entire country is set up to glorify (no pun intended) and support their religion. Public criticism of Christianity is almost unheard of.

Lots of topics garner some pretty ferocious discussion on DU. PETA, feminism, smoking, etc. Fairly harsh words are sometimes used. Most religious threads are pretty mild by comparison! But because of that lack of public criticism, many Christians feel personally attacked by people simply speaking their mind about religion.

And yet, many Christians aren't threatened at all. They know it's just talk on a discussion board, that people have strong opinions about religion and heated arguments will happen. But honestly, if a Christian thinks s/he is "hated" on DU, s/he's got a pretty loose grasp on reality.

and diminishing anything that is fully human (though not the required to be fully human) is not good. Read the new rules posted by admin. Talk religion all you want but don't paint all with the same brush - unless you want to hear from people who disagree or get locked.

If so, please cite examples.

come in all colors of the rainbow -be they Christian or mathmaticians - and painting them as all bad - is not being tolerant.

And it lessens us all.

I was talking to someone else. I don't really know what your take on the argument is. Yes by all means discuss religion.

are you accusing me of those things? You say you were talking to someone else, yet you were responding to my post. Please clarify.

But I'm not following your line of responses to me. You make it sound like you're trying to lecture me, then you claim you were responding to someone else. Just trying to make sense of it all.

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I just noted that some people have different ideas of what constitutes a "hate" thread. I didn't ask you why you used the word, I was just trying to illustrate that opinions differ.

from your question on the word to my initial post using the word. I must be very confused!

:bounce: But somehow i am not at all feeling abashed about my obvious jumbling of your responce to by thread.

I think it is pretty easy to understand. I will not patronize you by apologizing.

... out of 30 or so... could be taken as agreeing with an objectionable OP? :shrug:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=214&topic_id=33838&mesg_id=33838

So, er - HUH?

See Zen's post right above yours for a link to the "hate thread".

That is, if you can stomach all of the hateful, evil and vicious sentiments posted in that thread.

I'm shocked and horrified, myself.

...to believers.

That's stretching it.

And NONE of them were you, or trotsky, or Az - yet strangely, a couple of assholes (yes, you're assholes, deal with it) decided to insist YOU were the ones attacking Christians.

Man, the persecution complex from some (very few, thankfully) believers gets really, really old - especially since it's a lie.

And I haven't even reached my quota of persecuted christians this week.
If this slump keeps up, the EAC may revoke my license.

What really bothers me is not the pricks who continue to willfully offend atheists - they're idiots whose opinion matters less to me than the dog shit on my boot heel - but the silence of the many, many good Christians I know are here on DU and see the disrespect.

I think most of the liberal christians bailed out before things got really bad.

But hey, atheists are supposed to suck it up and not complain, right?

NT!

I had a friend who's license got revoked. Seriously... that cannot happen again. :scared:

I persecuted a meat eater and some knitters to make up for the slack.

It'll even out in the end.

LMAO

the old ones don't move very fast...
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