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loveable liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 10:29 PM
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Will an intelligent designer please explain my tailbone please....
and my eye teeth, the usefullness of my man nipples and eyebrows. Am I wrong on this or is our own body proof of evolution?
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 10:31 PM
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1. heh heh heh
Some of us have an extra vertebra, called S-1, at the base of our spines.

Guess what that used to be?

heh heh heh

Pass the bananas.
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 10:32 PM
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2. Our teeth seem to be a good argument against evolution!
Sharks have better teeth since broken ones just come off and new ones grow to replace the old ones.. Save a lot in dental bills.
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loveable liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 10:34 PM
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3. sharks are old school... i like that!
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 10:35 PM
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4. Yeah, it's too bad humankind didn't evolve from sharks. :) n/t
n/t
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 10:43 PM
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12. I think (setting aside the tooth issue) some of us
probably did. :D
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 10:37 PM
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10. What kind of genetic engineering I want:
I want the genes of sharks teeth jiggered so we get a brand new (third) set of teeth in our mid to late 40's.

The truth of it is that we have gotten so good medically that we just plain outlive our teeth.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 09:42 AM
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33. Exactly.
Evolution provided us with a set of choppers that had no problem making it to the mid-30s on a diet that did not include soda pop, refined sugars, or corn syrup. For most of our 2 million years of existence as a species, that was perfectly adequate. Evolution worked just fine.
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loveable liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 03:29 AM
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24. wont the fundies be suprised when our sun goes supernova!
science will get the last laugh! Ha!
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 03:27 AM
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31. Post # 3 has it right. Sharks have been around for 400 million years.
Humans - 3 million years.

Not that sharks teeth would be better to have in our heads than our human teeth. There are reasons they evolved that way. ;)
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 10:35 PM
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5. Sorry, imperfections do not prove evolution.
The designer put the tailbone there so we would wonder why it's there.

Just like eye glasses, our nose is perfectly made for eyeglasses to rest there, therefore, some of us have eyeglasses.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 10:35 PM
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6. You're tail bone is a leftover vestige from your amphibian ancestry.
Other primates have created great usefulness from it.... Why haven't you? What's your problem? Are you typing w/ your prehensile tail or just spouting off?



But then I think creationists are crazy....
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megatherium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 10:35 PM
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7. Nipples in men? That's easy to explain.
They're a wonderful erogenous zone for some men, including me. They feel really nice if you or your partner play with them while making love.

Eyebrows appear to be part of our way of communicating emotion. Notice how eyebrows go up to indicate surprise or questioning? They might also help keep rain or snow out of your eyes.

Tailbones? I dunno what they're for. Maybe they're there to be kicked. :grin:
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loveable liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 03:28 AM
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23. thats too much information for me... but...
i applaud your openness!
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 10:36 PM
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8. Oh cam on! (thank you in Vietnamese)
God created pestilence, poverty, war,starvation, torture and genocide just to test your faith. After all, he is a good and just God who just has a little ego problem and needs his suffering subjects to sing praises to him to make him feel like a....God, I guess. What a needy SOB!
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 10:37 PM
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9. Get thee away blaphemer!!!!!
How dare you question the Lord's perfectly rational flawless design??
It is obviously a genetic deformity caused by lack of faith and an overabundance of free thought, fundies don't have tailbones...or do they? (I've never felt a fundies ass so I have no first hand knowledge):rofl:
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loveable liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 03:22 AM
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22. speaking of fundies... theres a link below
describing "fundies" as Old Testament Paulists (otp's for short). I liked that too. It decribed Paul as trying to be helpful, but took ol' jesus message and twisted it so that it made the creator vengeful and in need of worship.

Funny how those most in need of worship have a confidence problem. And a God with a confidence problem is just plain silly.
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splat@14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 10:37 PM
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11. Or explain Jean Schmidt, Ann Coulter, Bill O'Reilly, Rush, Sean, etc. N/T
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 11:11 PM
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16. Nobody said evolution was perfect
They're probably a transitional species that seems almost human.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 10:51 PM
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13. I can't explain the tailbone, but I do know about the nipples
It's a survival/adaptation thing.

If you are walking along the highway and see a damsel in distress with a broken down car, and let's say you have no car tools on you and your arms are amputated, if your nipples are pierced, you can have her chain the car to your nipples, and drag the car to the nearest service station.

It's a mating ritual thing. I tell you, if a guy did that for me, I'd notice him.

I imagine it's a good way to find a wife and reproduce, ensuring the continuation of the species.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 12:59 AM
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20. WOW.... I'll need to contemplate that over a bottle of Red
and a doob..... now, what were you saying?
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Mend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 10:55 PM
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14. ontology recapitulates phylogeny....
oh never mind.
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nemo137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 01:46 AM
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21. we immunize the fish for the man's diseases?
?
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 11:08 PM
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15. I have complained here before about
that one place on my back that I can never reach when it itches - what's up with that

and the way sinuses drain down the back of your throat. Wouldn't an intelligent designer have put in some other way for them to drain .... or are these merely design flaws for which we can bring some sort of legal action?
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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 11:12 PM
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17. Your polyjuice potion had a cat hair in it?
:P
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justgamma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 11:19 PM
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18. And what IDer decided to put a
do nothing appendix in our bodies? Did he just for shits and giggles put in an extra lump that can burst and kill you?
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 11:33 PM
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19. It's a vestigial cecum. If we had any common sense we would use
it like a rat or horse uses theirs: to digest plant material like grass and hay and such. Of course, it helps that theirs are giant.
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Bloodblister Bob Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 08:59 AM
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25. God made our bodies like that to trick smarty-pants evolutionists. n/t
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 12:08 AM
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26. Are you going to have yours removed?

I think I'll keep mine.


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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 12:16 AM
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27. How about my scrotum?
I mean, seriously, if some engineer designed something where the most painful area was hanging out in front between two legs (where the kicking is easy), they would be fired. Shouldn't there be at least a little more protection?
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FM Arouet666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 12:58 AM
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28. You are wrong, the scrotum is proof of god
Yep, that is how she made you. :evilgrin:
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Goldensilence Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 02:00 AM
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30. ah ahahahaha
:rofl:
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nemo137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 01:53 AM
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29. An exscrotum!
Honestly, though, the differences between male and female genitals are proof that if God has a gender, it is feminine.
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 03:42 AM
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32. On the nipple tip...
The uncoupling of male and female traits occurs if there is selection for it: if the trait is important to the reproductive success of both males and females but the best or "optimal" trait is different for a male and a female. We would not expect such an uncoupling if the attribute is important in both sexes and the "optimal" value is similar in both sexes, nor would we expect uncoupling to evolve if the attribute is important to one sex but unimportant in the other. The latter is the case for nipples. Their advantage in females, in terms of reproductive success, is clear. But because the genetic "default" is for males and females to share characters, the presence of nipples in males is probably best explained as a genetic correlation that persists through lack of selection against them, rather than selection for them. Interestingly, though, it could be argued that the occurrence of problems associated with the male nipple, such as carcinoma, constitutes contemporary selection against them. In a sense, male nipples are analogous to vestigial structures such as the remnants of useless pelvic bones in whales: if they did much harm, they would have disappeared.
sciam.com


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