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unschooler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 03:52 PM
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Ibn Warraq on the cartoons.
If you don't know who this guy is, he's the Bertrand Russell of the Islamic world. Sadly, like so many important dissidents in history, he is forced to use a pen name.


The great British philosopher John Stuart Mill wrote in On Liberty, "Strange it is, that men should admit the validity of the arguments for free discussion, but object to their being 'pushed to an extreme'; not seeing that unless the reasons are good for an extreme case, they are not good for any case."

The cartoons in the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten raise the most important question of our times: freedom of expression. Are we in the west going to cave into pressure from societies with a medieval mindset, or are we going to defend our most precious freedom -- freedom of expression, a freedom for which thousands of people sacrificed their lives?



http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,398853,00.html

Born in 1946 in India and raised in Pakistan, Ibn Warraq was educated in Koran schools in Pakistan and later in England. He currently lives in the United States and writes under the pseudonym Ibn Warraq, a pen name traditionally used by dissidents in Islam. He is the author of the best- seller "Why I am Not a Muslim" and the editor of "The Origins of the Koran" and "The Quest for the Historical Muhammad."

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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 03:57 PM
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1. Beautiful, seriously great.
Thanks for finding it, unschooler.

A democracy cannot survive long without freedom of expression, the freedom to argue, to dissent, even to insult and offend. It is a freedom sorely lacking in the Islamic world, and without it Islam will remain unassailed in its dogmatic, fanatical, medieval fortress; ossified, totalitarian and intolerant. Without this fundamental freedom, Islam will continue to stifle thought, human rights, individuality; originality and truth.

Unless, we show some solidarity, unashamed, noisy, public solidarity with the Danish cartoonists, then the forces that are trying to impose on the Free West a totalitarian ideology will have won; the Islamization of Europe will have begun in earnest. Do not apologize.
http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,398853,00.html
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unschooler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 04:04 PM
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2. He is a hero of mine. Along with Voltaire, Paine and others who
suffered to bring reason to the west.
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 04:15 PM
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3. I don't recall hearing of him before.
I'll definitely keep him mind and check the other stuff he's written.
Thanks :thumbsup:
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unschooler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 09:18 PM
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4. Check out secularislam.org. The "other" enlightenment has begun!
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