Let's play name the 'Christian' Pharisee!

• Joel Osteen
  
• Tim Lehay
  
• Paul and Jan Crouch
  
• Jerry Falwell
  
• Pat Robertson
  
• 'Dr.' James Dobson
  
• George W. Bush
  

Feel free to add your own...

with the frosted hairdo and too much make-up? (NOT Tammy Faye)

They're real big on the 'Give to Get' doctrine.

Paul Crouch on giving and Receiving:


** I added she and her husband Paul to the list and deservedly so!

Joel Osteen just preaches the word of God. And he just preaches common-sense values, IMO.

Somethings I think people just start shooting from their hip without knowing what they are talking about.

And although I love the D.U. family on here, it seems as though some DUers want to attack religion as a whole. Religion is not the problem; it's the way some people use religion.

He can talk the talk but he sure ain't walkin the walk. Besides, IMHO he's nothing more than a self help guru very cleverly marketed as a Christian - Christian Lite for that matter.

He preaches the unadulterated word of God.

And the love he has for the Lord just comes through when he preaches and teaches.

it's not love that comes through.

Is that if we want to have any chance of making it into Heaven, we have to confess the Lord with our tongue, and accept him as our Savior.

I believe that's what he means, and I would agree with him on that.

But it's still intolerant fundamentalist dogma.

I don't care whose mouth it's coming out of.

Especially when he stated to Barbara Walters on the View, that only Christians will gain admittance to Heaven, he sounds just like the others to me.

Some other items:

Critics have decried his lifestyle as "lavish" pointing to the fact that he lives in a house valued at over $2.5 million, in the same neighborhood as former President George H. W. Bush.

Supporters also point to the church's charity work, particularly during the aftermath of Tropical Storm Allison. According to Lakewood, the church donated over $1,000,000 to flood victims in one year alone, housing many of them temporarily at the sanctuary on the northeast side of Houston.

Lakewood refused to house evacuees in its new facility, formerly the Compaq Center. Some believe this is due to the financial state of most of the evacuees, ie. they were not considered valuable future-financial contributors to the congregation.

So you see Joel isn't much different, he just has a lot of people fooled.

:eyes:

If heaven is filled with hypocrites like him, they can have it.

"Heaven for the climate, hell for the conversation."

I'd gladly forgo the climate if it's filled with smug Calvinists. No amount of pleasant weather can possibly balance the stifling presence of that sort.

Got it saved!

My standard reply to the "Don't you want to go to Heaven?" question is:

"But I wouldn't know anyone."

preaching the worked of God. I'd would rather listen to a "street corner preacher" than to listen to a TV (so called ) evangelist.

he,his wife and family were kicked off the Continental Airlines flight (in First Class of course) to Vail,CO.



...and then I came across an article today showing him giving an "autograph" - what? - our pastor would laugh in your face!

http://blogs.chron.com/katrinavoices/archives/2005/09/a_prayer_for_ka.html

What is wrong with him autographing someone's copy of his book? He wrote a book (Your Best Life Now) and just happened to autograph a copy for someone. Big deal!

And there were no indications that his wife Victoria acted improperly on that flight.

...try , witness accounts of;

a. being verbally abusive to Stewardess
b. banging on closed cock-pit door
c. Being asked to leave plane on orders of Captain

...verfified by Luz Garcia ( Houston FBI)


..not to mention these camels were flying first-class to Vail for a ski-vacation over Christmas.


( want sources - google the words: Osteen FBI Continental - there are thousands of them)

..and then she doesnt apologise and lies about what/how happened (unless you'd prefer to belive the FBI lied?)

but I agree with you on your last statement.

and how some religion encourages ignorance. And how religion can so easily control people, like making them defend someone who flaunts wealth as preaching "unadulterated" gospel.

.. Tom DeLay?

He's not a preacher exactly but he's always spouting
pseudo-xtian beliefs and plans in that peculiarly
smarmy fashion that criminal hypocrites do.

pRick Santorum
Bill Frist
Jebbie Bush
Contradicta Rice
Franklin Graham
Randall Terry
Ralphie Reed

Alas, the list goes on and on and on and on

Let's call her Jane Doe. ;-)

Benny Hinn?

Incredible. I doubt anyone else here has been to one of his crusades, but they are amazing. I know that pat thing to do would be to compare it to a nuremberg rally, but that's not entirely accurate. It's more like watching Tetzel sell indulgences. So many people there, looking to get healed. And it was quite a show. All white and gold, huge choirs, all these utterly convinced people wandering through the stadium (my dad took me to one at the Kiel Center). It's amazing. He also utters prophecies. I don't remember what he said when I saw him, probably some vague "revival" message.

The man's a pure pharisee.

The Ezzos

Papa Ratzi

and the woman who feeds him the questions.

Sid