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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 01:48 PM Original message |
Do you really want to understand the atheists? |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
1. I came to Atheism as a child. |
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RobertSeattle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 02:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. OT, but here's some great atheist quotes |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 02:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. My moment came when my 4th grade Sunday school teacher |
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squarepants (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 02:51 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. I think that both |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 03:14 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. It's not an insult, it is a fact. |
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squarepants (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 06:40 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Mindpilot |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 07:41 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Yes You Are |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 07:41 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Nice Try |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 03:47 PM Response to Reply #9 |
21. That's pretty simple, but I suspect that you won't like the answer |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 09:37 PM Response to Reply #21 |
47. "Until Then You And Every Other Theist Are Just Making Everything Up As |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 09:49 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. The willful rejection of rational inquiry does piss me off, yes |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 09:56 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Like They Say |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 10:18 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. You realize that you're identifying yourself as "pissed on," right? |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 10:28 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. No I'd Rather Be Pissed Off Thanks Though |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-14-06 01:41 AM Response to Reply #5 |
115. Pfffft, not so MindPilot. |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 05:44 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. ... |
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squarepants (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 06:42 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Heehee, |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 09:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. Deleted message |
neebob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 12:47 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. I wouldn't call it a mental disability |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
11. If a person treats other people well |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
14. I have some questions about atheist threads in R/T... |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 01:13 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. I will answer your queries. |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 02:35 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. First off, yes I have done research into NDE's, nothing is empirical, so |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 03:27 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. "a lot of (atheists') position, just like that of theists, is conjecture." |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 07:51 PM Response to Reply #16 |
35. Atheism is not NECESSARILY conjecture. |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 08:36 PM Response to Reply #35 |
45. I never called anyone a liar...that is a cheap shot. |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 10:02 PM Response to Reply #45 |
51. Telling us we have beliefs when we insist we don't is the same thing. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 10:52 PM Response to Reply #45 |
56. I don't know why |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 12:05 AM Response to Reply #56 |
60. But assertion #2 is based on the faith that you are correct in your |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 12:19 AM Response to Reply #60 |
62. There is no "assumption" |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 12:35 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. But you are asserting something, specifically that you do not |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 12:58 AM Response to Reply #63 |
64. ......... |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 01:02 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. I love the second smilie. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 01:04 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Sometimes that's the only response left. |
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TransitJohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 01:25 PM Response to Reply #63 |
83. "Around around the mullberry bush the mokey chased the weasel....." |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 03:59 PM Response to Reply #63 |
86. WE DO *NOT* ASSERT THAT GODS DON'T EXIST. |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-14-06 12:27 AM Response to Reply #86 |
110. For one thing, "we" is probably not a good way to get a personal |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-14-06 02:04 AM Response to Reply #110 |
116. You ask, you learn. |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 02:58 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Egad. Do you really not know the difference between groups and forums? |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 03:22 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. So group/Forum has become dereguer... |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 03:42 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. You repeatedly refuse to accept the correct definition of atheism, |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 05:36 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. So where is your definition? |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 05:45 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. I wouldn't dare speak for BMUS |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 06:01 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. So what do you believe in? Yourself, nature...whatever, is fine |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 06:05 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. You didn't even read what I typed! |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 06:19 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. I did read what you posted...in essence, you posted you "don't believe" |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 06:24 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. I am at a loss for words |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 07:06 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. When trying to discuss atheism with someone who tells us we're too stupid |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 07:25 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. And I wasted so much time trying |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 07:31 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. You get extra credit for not bringing Santa into this. |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 07:58 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. or mental illness???? n/t |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 08:02 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. ! |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 07:37 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. That is absurd, I never stated you were stupid in any of my posts... |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 07:43 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Oh, right. I forgot, we're just using the "wrong" definition. |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 07:46 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Jesus Fuckin Christ!!! |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 08:02 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. That would explain why he can't see them. |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 08:08 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. If you draw no conclusions, why even argue your point? |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 08:20 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. I give up |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 04:08 PM Response to Reply #32 |
88. There is no conclusion save one: |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-14-06 03:05 AM Response to Reply #29 |
120. Deleted message |
Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 03:50 AM Response to Reply #26 |
78. I don't believe I exist! |
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TransitJohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 01:28 PM Response to Reply #24 |
84. round and round and round |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 06:28 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. Same place they were was last time we had this conversation. |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 07:57 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. I have read these in the past, and I well recall our previous conversation |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 08:04 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Now , that is certainly half-brief |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 08:06 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. Really? You read all of that and still don't get it? |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 08:31 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. So let me get this straight...You can entice me to other sites and |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 08:49 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. You think I "entice" you? And that I called you names? |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 09:42 PM Response to Reply #14 |
48. Thank Rasputin! |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 10:17 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. Well...the whole thing is about discussion and learning from one |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 10:29 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Courtesy. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 11:01 PM Response to Reply #48 |
57. Yes |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 11:53 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. I think we can all agree that insults are hurled by all sides... |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 12:04 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. It just seems that all we see in here is |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 12:15 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. As it does for the other side...very few have learned discourse, and |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 03:06 AM Response to Reply #61 |
70. Yo! Example of atheist saying that the majority of Christian posts attack |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 10:14 AM Response to Reply #57 |
81. I've Not Seen Any Putting Down |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 10:26 PM Response to Reply #81 |
98. It happens |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 04:14 PM Response to Reply #48 |
89. Oh, come on, SPK. He thinks he can tell us how our minds work... |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 02:57 AM Response to Reply #14 |
68. Here we go, the answers, and try not to be so insulting in future. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 03:05 AM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Excellent post RA |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 03:09 AM Response to Reply #69 |
71. I know. I just got here, I wish I had seen it earlier. I am getting close |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 03:20 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. ......... |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 03:27 AM Response to Reply #72 |
73. No, really. I am about a 50 cent taxi ride from kicking the bare behind of |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 03:30 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. I wanna watch! |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 03:34 AM Response to Reply #74 |
76. Only my schoolwork keeps me from it. |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 09:23 AM Response to Reply #68 |
80. Excuse me....I ask some questions, and you come back in attack |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-14-06 01:05 AM Response to Reply #80 |
113. Why do the stupid fucking Christians spend all their time in whining |
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neebob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 11:43 AM Response to Reply #14 |
82. There you go with the moderator thing again. |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 02:38 PM Response to Reply #82 |
85. I do that specifically because I have been |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 04:04 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. Thanks for your sincerity, Rasputin. But the game here is the game. |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 04:51 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. Already there...My concern is to open dialog, and most do not wish |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 05:34 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. Deleted message |
rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 06:05 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. Amazing...rather than post something of substance, you compare me |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 06:25 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. You still aren't listening to what you have been told. |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 07:20 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. If you do not believe, you have come to a conclusion based on an |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 08:07 PM Response to Reply #94 |
95. Ok, I will assume that you don't understand |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 09:56 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. I am not being insulting, I am being rational... |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 10:27 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. Conclusions |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 10:52 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. Another spurious post... |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 10:58 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. Conclusion: |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 11:15 PM Response to Reply #102 |
104. Oh shit, lemme get my beret and bongoes |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 11:25 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. ! |
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neebob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 10:56 PM Response to Reply #90 |
101. Oh, poor innocent you. |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-14-06 12:07 AM Response to Reply #101 |
108. Why should it? We are two entirely different people with two |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-14-06 12:16 AM Response to Reply #108 |
109. Right. We atheists don't know how to define our atheism. We're too stupid. |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-14-06 12:41 AM Response to Reply #109 |
111. Judging by tour previous responses, I do think you have a problem |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-14-06 01:00 AM Response to Reply #111 |
112. Your dime store analysis is boring, repetitive and incredibly ignorant. |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-14-06 01:23 AM Response to Reply #111 |
114. I don't think you can understand....thats not an insult. |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-14-06 02:32 AM Response to Reply #114 |
119. I think you need to write a play starring your Talking Ass Pimple. |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-14-06 03:07 AM Response to Reply #119 |
121. He is full of wisdom. |
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neebob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 11:05 PM Response to Reply #87 |
103. Speak for yourself, please. |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 11:33 PM Response to Reply #103 |
106. You seem to speak for me readily enough. |
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neebob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 11:49 PM Response to Reply #106 |
107. You're the one who said you argued from a fragile position |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 02:26 AM Response to Original message |
67. Did anyone even READ the link. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 03:33 AM Response to Reply #67 |
75. Are you bloody insane? |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 03:49 AM Response to Reply #75 |
77. Unfortunately, I am one of those caricature atheists |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 03:55 AM Response to Reply #77 |
79. I always love your plays |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
96. ALLAH is GOD, the same God Christians believe in.... |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-14-06 02:23 AM Response to Reply #96 |
117. Thank you for your reply.... |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-14-06 02:30 AM Response to Original message |
118. I will respond to your op, Evo. |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-14-06 03:25 AM Response to Reply #118 |
122. Actually, a lot of those stories actually helped |
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Broken_Hero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-14-06 03:57 AM Response to Original message |
123. Locking |
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