Governor of California Criminalizes Christianity

Does anyone know about this supposedly "new" law in CA. I got this in an e-mail today from "The Rick Scarborough Report on the War on Faith." I make it a point to monitor the enemy. Of course I understand that what he is talking about cannot be applied to regular church service as he doesn't actually say but alludes to in this article. I just want to know if such a law in CA has been enacted because if it upsets the fundies this bad it has to be good for the community.

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In a remarkably arrogant breach of his responsibility to be Governor of all the people of California, Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger yielded to homosexual demands and signed into law a law that criminalizes Bible believing people in the state.

On the surface, SB 1441 would add "sexual orientation" to an anti-discrimination statute dealing with how state funds are handed out. The bill's sponsor, state Sen. Sheila James Kuehl, an openly gay legislator, claims the law will "close an important gap in California's nondiscrimination laws." But in reality, what has transpired will result in giving radical homosexual activists in the state the legal ammunition to shut down and criminalize any preacher who happens to believe and practice Romans 1 as a matter of conscience, and thereby gives a homosexual activist cause to “feel” threatened by such preaching.

Mona Passignano, state issues analyst for Focus on the Family Action, said what the bill really does is insidious.

"What it will actually do is create an atmosphere in which businesses and organizations that receive state funding cannot speak about homosexuality in any way which might be perceived as being negative," she said. "Funding could be taken away if somebody perceives that they have been discriminated against for their gender identity."

Passignano pointed out that the law could arguably include a church no longer being able to get police or fire protection from a city, if the pastor preaches from Romans 1 about the biblical view of homosexuality.

Neither preacher nor any follower of Christ should ever condemn or ridicule another human being for any practice or behavior, as our Lord commands us to love all people the same. We do, however, have a Biblical mandate to confront sinful behavior, always with a sense of compassion and spirit of love that recognizes the truth, that but for the grace of God, there go I. As of Monday, in California, that kind of preaching could be an indictable offense. Christianity has been criminalized in California.

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the xtian right, trying to motivate the flock towards their goal of a theocrazy. "War on Faith"? Give me a break!

but this is the kind of stuff that is being feed to fundies and one has to understand that they buy it hook, line, and sinker, and really see themselves as being persecuted, which to me is shameful.

I cannot understand the intellectual disconnect that allows "strict interpretationists" to pick and choose the bible.

Let's for a minute suppose these people are right and homosexuality is condemmed in the bible (there is debate about the meaning and the translations,) but let's suppose for a moment it's true.

What if I ran a church in CA that advocated for the enslavement of any people outside my tribe. Or for the stoning of adulterers. The state saying I can't incite violence is infringing on my literal interpretation of the bible.

I guess my point is that people should not be allowed to discriminate because of their religious beliefs.

Or I think that was my point, anyway.

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... and that article could be any one of thousands written by racist bigots in the '50's.

somehow think this is different.

:eyes: puhleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze! :eyes: Yes, the poor persecuted christians can't worship at the place of their choosing. They're being eradicated from our society. :eyes: They're being hunted down like Dick Cheney hunting quail.

WILL THEY PLEASE SHUT THE HELL UP? :mad: Next we'll resume the "war" on christmas, then the "war" on easter and the "war" on everything else they believe. :puke:

I'm getting sick of them trying to shove their religion down my throat at every turn! :grr: Worship in silence. Stop making a public display of your faith and ignorance. They think it will curry favor with their god by making cacophonous noise about it. SHUT UP, ALREADY! :argh:

Sometimes I do wish "it" were criminal to be a Wingnut Christian. Particularly seeing how it is they who are constantly seeking to impose their world view in the form of laws on everyone else, or to take away other's rights. But this claim about "criminalizing" Christians is pure, unadulterated BULLSHIT.

First, there are no criminal penalties involved in the passage of this law. The law requires that the contributions to society by homosexuals be added to the curriculum in these schools. If they choose not to comply, then fine -- no state funds then. Not prison.

Secondly, churches and most nonprofit educational organizations, as a matter of course, seek designation as 501 C (3) under IRS rules, as tax-exempt organizations. That means no government can tax them. Few make any payments at all for the services that they receive, but its us, the taxpayers who are the ones who are subsidizing them. A few localities and states require PILOT fees be paid. That is: Payment In Lieu Of Taxes for things like street lights, garbage pickup, etc. But no taxes on real or personal property of the organization if they're a tax exempt organization as almost every single church and church-supported educational facility in America is.

What should be criminalized are these kinds of blatant lies being spread out of the mouths of pricks like these!

So many Christians, so few lions.....

for freedom of religion in the 1st Amendment, along with reading "The End of Faith," by Sam Harris but at this point the jury is still out.

What these Wingnuts "fear" is the disconnect that results when having to espouse hatred for homosexuals out of one side of their mouths, while later having to extol the virtues and contributions they make as well. That could raise questions in a students mind that maybe "these people" aren't all that bad.

And they can't have that because they NEED a scapegoat. They need a physically present example of the devil to direct their scorn at. And with the passage of nondiscrimination laws, they're running out of subjects. Next thing you know, they'll have to depend on preaching about junk like "LOVE." And what self-respecting Wingnut Christian wants to stoop to that level???

uh huh

That is to say, complete BS

So long as the churches or other groups don't expect to receive gov't money, they're free to continue to discriminate to their heart's content. They cannot, however, do that on the people's dime.

Police/Fire, etc -- total red herring. Those services will of course continue to be available to all, as needed.

Just more fear tactics to bolster their bigotry.

They get out of taxes, so I guess, by a major twist on perspective, getting services for free is getting state funding. But really, are people going to let a church burn down? That would be illegal for the fire department. And a safety hazard. What if my business was near a church that is on fire? Would the city really let it burn? How insane.

And only the insane would actually believe that.

example of the kind of propaganda that is being used on fundies and apparently the are too ill educated to understand that it is all lies.

He grew up with this kind of fundy-fruitcake-mentality-of-oh-no-chicken-little-the-sky-is-falling stupidity. Thankfully, he got the hell out of that mess!

'punch random people in the head' religion?

We have to meet up for a service sometime. Celebrate a little "communion."

that just saying our prayers is enough to get us arrested, don't you?

For the ignorant fools reading this, our prayer consists of punching random people in the head.

As a member of the Divine Worship of Bullseye, I am tired of your group praying on our members.

We only punch them.

And WTF? Since when did Bullseye ever have a gun?

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He's BULLSEYE, anything in his hands is deadly!

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by signing this bill and the recent global warming bill, he has managed to piss off the fundies and a good number of the cons

is he that certain that he is going to win in November, and please no Diebold comments, that he's willing to take some truly progressive stances