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brooklynite

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Wed Oct-18-06 10:10 AM
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LAT: An Atheist Tries Jesus

Interesting to find this in as mainstream a paper as the LA Times...

Joel Stein: An Atheist Tries Jesus
Going through all the motions of an actual believer at a worship service in Texas.
October 17, 2006

I HAD NEVER BEEN to church before. I mean I'd been inside them for weddings, architectural curiosity and once, in college, to hear some guy play organ so I could hook up with Jenny Hodge. I'm pretty sure God will be cool with that because, as an omnipotent being, he knows how hot she was.

But I'd never sat through a service until I went to Austin, Texas, two weeks ago. This mostly has to do with the fact that I'm Jewish and don't believe in God, and sermons don't have nudity or anything to gamble on. But my college friend, Mike Langford, just got ordained as a pastor at Covenant Presbyterian Church, so I felt like I needed to see his gig.

The first thing I noticed about church was how much like PBS it was. The lighting was dim, the speakers talked slowly, the songs were dated, there were a lot of references to reading material and every so often my eye line was interrupted by envelopes asking me to donate money. Also, I kept falling asleep.

I was surprised by how many of the songs and prayers I knew, like the one where I walked through the valley of the shadow of death. I was getting pretty confident until the call and response of Kyrie eleison, when I mistakenly belted out "Down the road that I must travel." It turns out Mr. Mister played pretty loose with their hermeneutics.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-stein17oct17,0,7811463.column?coll=la-opinion-rightrail

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MADem

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Wed Oct-18-06 10:18 AM
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1. That is incredibly witty!! The communion bit had me rolling on the floor!

Still, there was also a lot of talk about peace and love and some nice meditative time. In fact, it was all going well until the interactive portion. I had foolishly thought that only Catholics did Communion. But it turns out that only Catholics, for whom the Eucharist is more than a mere memorial, do Communion well. Presbyterians use a supermarket baguette for the body of Christ and grape juice for his blood.

I figured just a few people would take Communion; the ones who needed a little extra boost of Christ that week, like a spiritual PowerBar. But every single person in the first row got up to take Communion from Mike. Then the second row. They were serving buffet style.

I panicked. Would taking Communion somehow magically convert me? And even if it didn't, would it be an affront to my lineage, to my people who died refusing to convert during the Inquisition? And wasn't it particularly bad considering it was the night of the most religious Jewish holiday, Yom Kippur? Symbols of the body and blood of Christ seemed like a particularly bad way to break the fast.

In "Ulysses," the agnostic James Joyce debates whether he should have put his principles and his pride aside and agreed to pray with his mom on her deathbed. Lucky for you I don't have the kind of space he had. With just minutes left until my row stood up, I decided that Joyce was an idiot. The whole point of being an atheist is that you don't have to believe symbolism matters.

So I decided I was going to do it, when, with just three rows left, I started to worry that taking Communion would be rude to my new Christian friends. Was I cheapening their religious experience by traipsing through it as a tourist? Basically, would this be bad for Mike at job evaluation time? Hadn't an African Catholic priest once gotten in trouble for letting President Bill Clinton take communion? I tentatively went up and gave Mike a look that I hoped asked, "Is this cool?" and he smiled and let me rip off a piece of baguette and dip it in the juice.

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yellerpup

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Wed Oct-18-06 10:18 AM
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2. Nice find!

I really enjoyed this essay.

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Commie Pinko Dirtbag

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Wed Oct-18-06 10:31 AM
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3. This paragraph alone is pure gold:

"The first thing I noticed about church was how much like PBS it was. The lighting was dim, the speakers talked slowly, the songs were dated, there were a lot of references to reading material and every so often my eye line was interrupted by envelopes asking me to donate money. Also, I kept falling asleep."

:rofl: :thumbsup:

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Warpy

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Wed Oct-18-06 10:36 AM
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4. Thanks, I was bracing myself

for either a saccharine conversion story or yet another one featuring a bitter and cynical atheist rejecting everything good and holy.

What a pleasant surprise!

Thanks for starting my day of so nicely by posting this!

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MrModerate

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Wed Oct-18-06 10:47 AM
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5. I have religious people in my family . . . my brother-in-law is . . .

a Presbyterian minister, funnily enough. So I've been through this myself.

I wish I could have been as arch about the whole thing as Stein was, but I'm an atheist who thinks that symbolism *does* matter, so I never enjoy myself that much.

But I have gone to church (many years ago) as part of a campaign to get close to a female of interest, so I understand that part. Sometimes you have to look for the *deeper* symbols.

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Ian David

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Wed Oct-18-06 11:21 AM
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6. I want to start my own religion called Hotchickology.

Edited on Wed Oct-18-06 11:22 AM by IanDB1

Basically, it would involve me and a whole lot of hot chicks.

The rest, I'd just make up as I go along.

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varkam

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Wed Oct-18-06 07:10 PM
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7. Lollerskates.

In fact, I'd never realized how much of a death cult Christianity is. When we weren't fixating on how awesome Christ's murder was, we were singing about how terrific it was going to be when we bite it. Chipper up, Christians! There's a lot to live for. They're making more of those "Narnia" movies.

:rofl:

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Ron Green

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Thu Oct-19-06 11:19 AM
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8. This may by the same Joel Stein that's made a career of being

cynical. He had "gen-Xer" column in Time Magazine some years ago, and he shows up on these Entertainment Channel offerings like 101 Best Celebrity Fuckups to comment on the lameness or the hotness or the unhipness of something or other.

I guess it's safe enough now for him to bring his daring wit to bear on the church. How helpful of him.

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