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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 08:01 PM
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Poll question: Doubts
Do you ever doubt your particular position on God?

Bryant
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 08:05 PM
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1. Join the D-squared religion -- two simple steps...

1) Doubt everything.

2) Doubt your doubts.

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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 02:11 AM
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7. I like it!
:D
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 08:15 PM
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2. I am an Atheist and I never doubt my position.
But, I don't know whether or not I am correct. Doubt is the psychological sense of "I wonder if I am mistaken". For me, I stopped that quite some time ago. There is no evidence to support the notion that god exists, and there is plenty of evidence to show that there is great likelihood that one does not exist. It is purely because of intellectual integrity that I have to admit that I don't know one way or the other - other than that, I don't stay up at night wondering whether or not if I'm going to burn in hell. I've had plenty of nights like that before, but not recently, and probably not ever again.
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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 03:47 AM
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8. Ditto.
Everything Varkam said. I don't have doubts, but I do not know for certain that god does not exist. Likely, yes. Certain, no.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 06:53 PM
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24. I don't think we CAN doubt it.
I mean, how does one doubt the internally-known fact that s/he lacks belief in gods?

You either know you don't have any belief in alleged gods, or you don't. Pretty clear-cut, right?

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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 09:48 PM
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3. Interesting results so far. Atheists are very secure in their positions
I would have expected something different... Like Atheists having more doubts than Theists.

I'm going to vote Theist/no doubts
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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 09:56 PM
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4. Early days, the lead has changed again.
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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 10:10 PM
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5. I vote biased - the position "There could be a god but there is not
currently enough evidence to support the idea that there is" is pretty much doubt solidified, so I would not expect there to be many people who doubt it.
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 12:51 AM
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6. I am neither theist or atheist...
my postition is continally evolving....but I don't doubt my path.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 04:35 AM
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9. I very occasionally doubt if the world is as we perceive it
and therefore entertain the possibility of gods when I wonder if this is all just an illusion.
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cyborg_jim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 05:03 AM
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10. It seems fruitless
To assume the universe is more complex than it has to be to explain our perceptions.
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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 07:20 AM
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11. I do something similar with some of the Gods.
Edited on Wed Oct-25-06 07:21 AM by Random_Australian
I've been trying to form a sum of every possible God lately. (I know this sounds impossible but it also defines a H(0) around which most if not all possible Gods are symmetrical)

The thing is, the integrand may be non-zero, as in, God has some effect. I don't know yet, butit will be great fun finding out!
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 07:30 AM
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12.  God effect? I believe that would be impossible to prove
You would have to use the process of elimination to remove all other possible causes for the effect. Since you do not have knowledge of all possible causes, you're up a creek without a paddle. But good luck with your effort.
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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 05:13 PM
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13. Puh! Actually, I don't, because I am calculating the ability, given the
evidence we have now, for all the Gods to have an effect. I'll walk you through it sometime!
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 05:41 PM
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14. Well, the evidence we have now is rather scant.
But I sense that this discussion is far too long winded for a person of my short attention span, so I will just say good luck and let it go.
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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 06:28 PM
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15. Thanks for the luck. By the way, it needs an inclusion of all the evidence.
But I'll write it up proper sometime so people can understand me.
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Unvanguard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 01:08 AM
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16. I am an atheist, and I regularly doubt my position.
I dislike organized religion and reject the notion of divine omnipotence and authority, but there are other options, and one of these days I may go with one of them.
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 07:23 AM
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17. what is "my position"
define "my position." as someone who believes in God? As a "Christian" (generic)? as a Protestant? As a Presbyterian? How specific do ytou want me to be?


As for "doubt" do you mean worry "what if I am wrong" or playing with an idea "what if 'they're' right" just for the intellectual fuun of it?





Ok, maybe I'm overthinking this....
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 02:49 PM
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18. the best lack all certainty, the worst lack all doubt
IIRC Bertrand Russell
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 05:24 PM
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19. That's an interesting statement, and I'm surprised more didn't
pick up on the implications of it - however, I don't think that it is fair in this case. The different ways that Theists and Atheists come up with their positions rather assures that they will approach doubts differently.

Bryant
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 06:52 PM
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20. doubt is doubt, does it matter how you happen upon it ?
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charles22 Donating Member (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 01:30 PM
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21. Well, you don't doubt something you never believed.
I never believed in God so I never really have doubted myself. My only doubt came from my "indoctrination" at years of Sunday School.
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skyblue Donating Member (724 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 07:17 AM
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22. I'm a Polytheist!!! I Cannot reply properly to this poll.
I hope that the God portrayed in the Bible does not exist, as he would be too cruel through his "benign" neglect: That stars live and die, thus destroying all life on the planets that depend upon them. That many animals have become extinct after living for thousands or millions of years. That Noah had to remove alot of poop and wee wee in the cages while he was steering his boat. That many animals are specifically designed to kill or be killed, and most eat other living animals. That we can see zillions of stars, but never visit them. That Christians believe all Jewish people, regardless how good they were in life, will go to hell.

And the oddities of the millions of insects, what for? And the waste of space of many uninhabited rather large empty rocks/planets that are in the sky.

I favor polytheism because alot of things do not make sense except for a multiple of personalities or twisted brain.

I also think it possible that aliens have visited the planet, because some of the crop circles are way too intricate, and that we do not have the skills to recreate the Pyramids, Stonehenge, Easter Island using the tools these societies were alleged to possess.
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charles22 Donating Member (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 03:42 PM
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23. Atheist. No doubt.
Long ago I realized the world more complicated than Religion even dares consider.
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