Report: Arroyo says he may have tested positive in 2003

Another one on the 2004 Red Sox.



Report: Arroyo says he may have tested positive in 2003

By Sports Network
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Cincinnati Reds pitcher Bronson Arroyo reportedly said he would not be surprised if he was on the 2003 list of 104 positive steroid tests, adding to a report Thursday that said that David Ortiz and Manny Ramirez both tested positive.

According to a report in the Boston Herald, Arroyo said that he took androstenedione, which was taken by former slugger Mark McGwire during his 70- homer season in 1998. He added that the nutrient may have been laced with steroids, such as Winstrol, which would cause a positive test.

Andro, as it is more commonly called, was banned in the 2004 season. Arroyo also reportedly admitted to using amphetamines, which were banned in 2006.

Arroyo added that when he stopped taking andro and amphetamines, he experienced no dropoff in performance, only a change in his ability to recover between starts.

...obviously things were out of control, obviously Selig is to blame.

I think Arroyo is a pretty stand up guy.

I wonder now if it is possible some of them took it and didn't know what it was. Maybe it was the training staff or whatever giving it to them and not disclosing everything about it.

Reason why is that years ago a friend and I went picking through GNC for those weight gain supplements and stuff. We went picked through the ingredients and found many of them packed with hormones but they were from pigs and stuff like that. It might have also been a gimick.

Also, just what the fuck is in andro anyways?

I'm trying to look it up but it sounds more like a cortico steroid than it is an anabolic steroid but I haven't really researched all the info on it.

IOW, andro is a precursor to anabaloids. If the process isn't prinstine, some anabaloids will form. Hence, Winstrol.

GNC wasn't in the business of testing the integrity of their products.
GAC

Andro was LACED with it.

It wasn't reveiewed by the FDA and it was snuck in there by those manufacturing it.

I know the chemistry and have seen the process block flow diagrams.
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The only reason Arroyo stopped using andro was because he heard through the grapevine that, because of lax production standards, some andro was laced with known steroids, such as Winstrol

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/red_sox/view.bg?articleid=1188184&srvc=rss

linked to A-Hole who allegedly gave A-Hole his roids, and he seems to have connections with all the Dominican Republic players, so some might have trusted him...it's hard to say when you don't know what he tested for, how much, and of course there was not re-testing to confirm...this dribbling out of names serves no purpose.

Period.

:wtf:

Sounds very Bondsian and cboy4ish.

They shouldn't just take the word of anyone, regardless of how close they are as friends or whatnot. I'm open to hearing what Ortiz says in his defense, but the "I didn't know what I was putting in my body" gambit won't fly with me.

Years ago there was an Islanders Trainer that was talking about what his job was like and they were discussing the concussion issue.

He was basicly describing that proffessional athletes are medical pin cushions. The medical staff and the trainers have access to shit that would take a lot of red tape for a Dr to get ahold of in a private practice.

He also went into talking about the cortisone shots (which is also a steroid but not an anabolic) they give to these athletes and why they are much more cautious about using these now adays then they were in the past.

Now the the NHLPA has more info about some of these meds the players are more informed about them and refuse. The NHL also has had a steroid policey which is something that MLB never had.

and while I'm willing to accept that they may not know exactly what they're putting in their bodies, they're still 100% responsible for it, and they know they were taking something they shouldn't. I can imagine some athletes are asking what they tested positive for just so they can find out what they were taking.

I'm interested in hearing what Ortiz has to say, but I don't think there's anything he's going to say that would convince me that he didn't know he was cheating.

to tell them what it is that are taking.

I'm an RN and I can't tell you how many times I've had people prescribed meds and they have no idea what they are.

I'm open minded to the possibilty it may be true but we really don't have all the evidecne as to what's going on with all the players.

People for some reason just trust those that prescribe their meds. Even trainers and in pro sports they are paid to get results.

Who knows? I wonder why the need for everyone to be so tight lipped. I think all of it should be out on the table.

but that's if your talking about licensed medical professionals, in which case, they're already giving them something they shouldn't so they're not exactly "responsible" to begin with. I'd be surprised if they were getting this stuff administered even by the team trainers. In most of the cases so far, it seems like the players were getting this stuff from their personal trainers (not the ones hired by the team) or from some other connection, rather than someone who would normally dispense drugs (trainer, doctor, etc...)

:)