YANKEES WIN!!!! THHHHHHEEE YANKEES WIN!!!!

Jeter walk off HR!!!

Wooo Hoooo!


Thank You Scarlett Johansson!!!!

Especially when monumental postseason CHOKES occur. ;-)

Do your homework.

They don't get paid at all.

How can you get excited about a win when the playing field isn't fair?

How many big names did the yankees steal from the poor clubs this off-season?

Signed,

A Despondent Pirates Fan - waiting for baseball to get its shit together like football.

Remember 1960 !!!

the team with the second highest payroll and even fewer homegrown players. Christ, it's like a broken record in here.

Jeter homered off of their closer, a free agent signee that the Sox bought off of the A's.

RED SOX despite their payroll LOSE!!!!

franchises that hemorage money like blood from a severed limb. It's an unfair balance. There's no way other teams in the league can compete on a year to year basis. Thus team's owners are forced to make one big push in one year for a pennant and sell or dismantle the franchise the next year to recover their costs.

Call me bitter, but the bitterness just adds to the elation in seeing the Yankees lose. We will be seeing them soon enough. I can't wait.

owned by the poor Nintendo corporation? :-)

Seriously, Nintendo has way more money than the Yankees and Red Sox put together.

that corporations have your best interest in mind, they don't. At least we have who we have. At least they didn't recruit all of our players from Japan and China just so they could sell more merchandise in Asia.

I just thank my lucky stars we're not owned by Walmart. They'd probably have the players making one-size-fits-all polyester slacks in the dugout between at bats.:P

I'm just saying that the idea that Nintendo doesn't have plenty of money, especially with that nice new stadium, to spend on players is kind of silly. If they wanted to compete, which, at times, they have wanted to do, they'd be able to do just fine. Unfortunately for you and other Mariners fans, they've decided at the moment that they're more interested in making money than in winning...

it seems the city found a loop hole for us to instead spend millions of dollars on Magic Stadium Beans and *poof* it just grew over night!

Yes, we have tried to compete and man that 116 game season was exciting, but that was for not.

Perhaps we could spend our money more wisely buying barrels and barrels of steriods. We could pack our team with gargantuin impotent Mega-players that use phone poles for bats and make the ground shake when they run. They'd throw fastballs the speed of sound and use gloves the size of hockey nets...

Thinking about it...we'd probably still lose in the post season to either injury or the whole team running off to climb the Empire State Building and bat down circling planes.

Oh well.

besides the Sawx and the Yanks, I mean? . . .

I didn't know that! . . .

Even in the rich AL East, the Yanks spend as much as the rest of the division put together.

Congrats on the win.

It will be a broken record until the national pastime is fixed or destroyed!

It's bad enough that the rich rule the rest of our lives. At least make baseball fair !

Yankees, according to ESPN, have a payroll of $183 million dollars. That doesn't include the $12 million a year they receive from the Rangers for A-Rod's contract, so they're really paying more like $170 million. The Sox have a payroll this season of $125 million. The Orioles and Blue Jays are both over $50 million, and the Rays are now over $30 million with the Crawford signing. So the rest of the division is around $255 million.

Also, the idea that baseball isn't fair is nonsense. The Yankees haven't won since 2000. Small budget teams like the A's, the Twins, the Marlins, etc, consistently make the playoffs.

That must be old data because the Randy Johnson deal most definitely put the Yanks over the $200 million mark for the year.

Even if the Sox spend $125 million they are still $75 million less than the Yanks and that's one more serious contender or two small market MLB teams less than them.

Yankees fans have zero right to decry the Sox as a high priced team because when put in context there is no team as greedy or as ridiculous as Steinbrenner's Yankees.

Rp

The OP said: "Even in the rich AL East, the Yanks spend as much as the rest of the division put together."

Still not true.

but it doesn't mean the Yankees are not the most gluttonous, ridiculous franchise in all of Sports.

Rp

but my point was that it's incredibly hypocritical of Sox fans to say that the Yankees have an unfair advantage and buy everyone when the Sox have the second highest payroll and even fewer homegrown talent, and are the fricking defending world champions!

but for 86 years we we're defending anything but futility (or maybe the Cubs had that title).

We are still a tad more responsible with our roster. We still get rid of high cost players and weigh the options before signing any elite players. That's the difference. The Yankees sign the all star best player at that position to long term high end deals. They never have to weigh any options.

For us to get Orlando Cabrera and a backup like Doug Mienkiewicz we have to get rid of a guy like Nomar. To get Edgar Renteria mid-level starter Matt Clement and short one year deals with Wells and Miller we let Cabrera, Pedro, Williamson, Kim, Lowe and Mienkiewicz go.

We weigh the options and make tough decisions on who to keep. That is more like the lower salary teams who try harder to balance their budgets. The increased revenue of the Boston fanbase obviously increases what we can spend and the names we have to struggle with keeping or signing, but the balancing of a budget is still evident.

Then there's the Yankees who can buy anyone they want and take on any contract at any time. Sure the Sox have more revenue than most teams but if you're playing responsibly you just can't do that.

That's the point. That's the disadvantage the Sox, and namely the other 28 teams have against the Yankees.

Rp

You traded Nomar because he was a cancer in the clubhouse. No way he could stay on the team after that game where he stayed on the bench while Jeter went flying into the stands, and everyone knew it.

Weigh the options? Please. Renteria and Clement are both being paid at least $10 million a year! Mid-level!? You want me to praise the Sox for letting one SS go in order to pay another one much more money? You traded Mienkiewizc because there wasn't any room for him on the team, not for money reasons. Millar makes much more money--why didn't you trade him instead? The Sox traded Kim and took on Charles Johnson's contract instead--even more money than Kim's deal. It's only teams like the Yankees and the Sox that could afford to pay a guy like Miller 3+ million dollars just on the chance that his torn labrum won't cause problems.

Tough decisions? You really must be kidding me. In the last two years, you've traded for a super expensive pitcher in Schilling, signed at least three players to $10 million/yr contracts, and taken on money to get rid of players you didn't want anymore.

Your arguments demonstrate very ably that you have zero objectivity. Prove me wrong.

Who have the Yankees given up or sacrificed for anything? ...Ever? Don't give me Javy Vazquez either because the Yankees didn't want him and the Diamondbacks did as part of the trade for the Unit.

And Millar only made $3.3 mil last year while Mientkiewicz made $2.8 mil. Not exactly a whopping difference.

We got Johnson's salary back which was slightly more but the Rockies threw in cash so we made more money back off the deal.

The Wade Miller contract wasn't really any different than what the Cubs did last year with Ryan Dempster or the Indians did with Aaron Boone (or better yet, what the Yankees did with Jon Lieber two years ago). Only difference is Miller will actually play as early as the end of April this season so unlike those other teams we didn't pay a guy to sit at home all year.

And then came ESPN's article today which outlined the difference in greed...

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2031528

Yankees' payroll tops five teams combine

NEW YORK -- Baseball's big-money boom pushed the average salary to a record $2.6 million on Opening Day, and the New York Yankee' payroll of just under $200 million topped five teams combined.

-snip-

Three Yankees were among the top five in salary: Alex Rodriguez, at $25.7 million, was No. 1 for the fifth straight year, Derek Jeter was fourth at $19.6 million and Mike Mussina was fifth at $19 million.

-snip-

While the players on the Yankees' Opening-Day roster totaled $205.9 million, cash received by New York in trades, notably last year's deal to acquire A-Rod from Texas, cut their payroll to $199.77 million.

"I'm just hoping that they'll let me in a card game or something around here," new Yankees pitcher Jaret Wright, who signed a $21 million, three-year contract, joked during spring training. "I don't know what the buy-ins might be, but I might have to take out some money out of my house or something."

New York is spending more than the $187 million total of Tampa Bay ($29.9 million), Kansas City ($36.9 million), Pittsburgh ($38.1 million), Milwaukee ($40.2 million) and Cleveland ($41.8 million).

-snip-

The World Series champion Boston Red Sox were second to the Yankees, with their players adding to $121.3 million.


That's a HUGE gap especially when you look at where other teams lie inbetween that divide between the Sox and Yanks. Sorry but you can't convince me the Sox are even in the same spending league. Now the Sox compare quite well with the Mets, Angels, Dodgers and Phillies... but the Yankees are a greed all their own.

Rp

I wasn't talking about the Yankees at all. No one could possibly deny that the Yankees haven't taken advantage of their financial largesse. Of course they have! Your lack of objectivity comes in the form of being a Sox kool-aid drinker. If you really cared so much about financial responsibility, you'd be on the Sox too. And you're not, which is understandable, but makes this discussion pointless. The issue here is Sox fans like you who somehow think that their team isn't part of the problem.

As far as the Yankees, your argument is stupid. They traded Soriano for A-Rod just last year (barely taking on any money, as a note, since the Rangers pay half A-Rod's contract.) Why is ditching Vazquez moot just because the Yankees didn't want him? The Sox didn't want Nomar, the Cubs didn't want Sosa, the Rangers didn't want A-Rod...it's all the same.

New York is spending more than the $187 million total of Tampa Bay ($29.9 million), Kansas City ($36.9 million), Pittsburgh ($38.1 million), Milwaukee ($40.2 million) and Cleveland ($41.8 million).

-snip-

The World Series champion Boston Red Sox were second to the Yankees, with their players adding to $121.3 million.


The Yankees are greedy and evil because they spend more than Tampa Bay, KC, Pittsburgh, Milwaukee, and Cleveland combined. HOWEVER, the Red Sox are morally superior because they only spend more than Pittsburgh, Milwaukee, and Cleveland combined. That's a classic splitting hairs argument.

More importantly, he also fails to mention that the Yankees pay a huge luxury tax on their payroll which benefits these same small market teams. The same luxury tax which prohibited the Yanks from going after Carlos Beltran.

Objectively, if one thinks that the money in baseball is a problem, it's impossible to say that both the Yanks and the Sox are not part of it.

Using MessiahRp's logic, Pol Pot is morally superior to Hitler because his genocide had less bodies.

Sorry practicing broadcasting skills from the Jim Nantz school.

and how 'bout Hideki Matsui! . . . at this rate, he's gonna be in the running for American League MVP! . . .

Jeter and Matsui are both going to have monster years.

Get your wins now. When Schilling and Wade Miller are healthy the series will get as lopsided as it was during the Regular Season last year.

Get em' in now, because when we're healthy the Yanks are screwed.

Rp

What true Yankee fan would get that excited about winning on day two of the season, whether it's against the RSox or not?

:evilgrin:

I had to respond.

:smoke:

Woooo-Hooooo!!

Now they're only 7 games under .500 }(

:evilgrin:

YIPPEE!:bounce: Mussina pitched well (finally!) I still have faith! It's only May!:bounce:

:D

I grew up in Washington, D.C., and for years, the Orioles owner prevented D.C. from having a baseball team. The Yankees were the enemy of my enemy.

Even now that D.C. has the Nationals, their long-term future there is in doubt because baseball gave their local cable rights to the Orioles owner, Peter Angelos. The Nationals won't have much cable money.

Angelos is just as evil as Steinbrenner.

and Ive always wanted a team here, I go for both teams. Of course, if you think I like Angelos, you're wrong, I think hes just as bad as Steinbrenner.

:)

For years and years, D.C. had been trying to get baseball, but the Orioles blocked it again and again. The only reason baseball came back to D.C. was that no other market in America could really support a professional baseball team. Heck, MLB toyed with the idea of putting the Expos in Mexico City before D.C.

So, yes Will, your precious Red Sox went 86 years without a title, and I went all of my life without a team at all.

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funny (you know, in a sad, pathetic, crying-clown sort of way) that the Yank fans were SO excited by a single victory. (Mussina did pitch a GREAT game BTW)

I just happened to remember this OP subject line from not too very long ago and thought I'd do my part to resurrect that joyous sentiment of the Yankees' triumph.

good job guys...
on this pace, you'll win 63 games... or over $3.17M for each win.


WOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

is that I think there's only 4 teams in all of baseball that have a lower winning percentage than the Yankees. Tampa, Cincinnati, KC, and i'm not sure who else.

Well, it's bad for us Yankee fans, good for you guys! I know.... :nopity:

:rofl: