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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 10:03 AM
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Poll question: What city is in the worst condition, sports wise?
Edited on Thu Oct-29-09 10:03 AM by charlie and algernon
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 10:11 AM
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1. I vote DC.
At least the Cavs got close the last few years.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 10:53 AM
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3. Tough choice between Cleveland and DC....
...the Redskins won it all not so very long ago, although this year is a disaster. The Cavs may do well, but could Tuesday's game be an indication that acquiring Shaq was a big mistake? The Cavs are Cleevland's only bright spot, too.
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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 01:39 PM
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9. well you guys at least have the Caps too
the one bright spot in a sea of sports despair
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 11:50 AM
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16. Meh. As long as they underperform in the playoffs
which they have a looong history of doing, I'm not sure thats so wonderful Last year was about the best team I remember..and since Pittsburgh is still there..
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 10:51 AM
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2. Until I saw this poll, I'd kind of forgotten that DC is represented in all 4 major sports
So yeah, they're the worst off.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 11:20 AM
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4. Oh my God. This isn't even a contest.
The last time Cleveland won a title in ANY sport was 1964.

1964.

That's 5 years before I was born. Martin Luther King and Malcolm X were still alive. The Vietnam War was getting underway, as was the "British Invasion". The NFL didn't even have the Super Bowl yet. Cleveland's running back was Jim Brown.

Whether it's bad management, bad drafts, bad luck or just plain bad games at the most inopportune times, it seems that if Cleveland won a title in anything, the earth would probably cave in on itself.

This is what other cities don't seem to get about being a Cleveland sports fan:

DC? Three Redskins Super Bowl wins in the 80s and 90s. Last championship was in 1991. Not even close to our drought.

Boston? Call me nuts, but I highly doubt I'm gonna feel sorry for fans that had to suffer through an 86-year WS drought when you have the 2004 and 2007 WS wins, the 3 recent New England SUPER BOWL wins (complete with the Browns old coach, no less) and several Celtic championships scattered over decades, not to mention a Celtic team loaded with all-stars this year.

Nueva York? Fuggedaboudit. 28 WS championships between the Yanks and the Mets, three Super Bowl wins by the Giants and Jets, five Stanley Cups between the Islanders and the Rangers and the biggest payroll in all of sports doesn't allow you to have any grumblings about how sorry the Knicks are.

America's favorite "wait 'til next year" gang, the Cubs, are STILL in Chicago. Please. Your city has SIX NBA titles, a 1985 SB win and a 2005 White Sox WS win.

The list goes on.

LA? Dodgers, Lakers, Sparx and Raiders all have at least 2 titles in their sports since 1980 (the Lakers have NINE). Count nearby adopted Anaheim, and the total title count rises two more (Ducks & Angels).

Atlanta? WS title in 1995. All that pitching in all of those WS and only . . . you guessed it folks, CLEVELAND . . . couldn't beat them.

Detroit? Red Wings, Pistons and Tigers all have multiple titles since the 80s, so you get no support group pass, Lions fans.

Pittsburgh? Six Steelers SB wins, Pirates winning the WS in 1979 and three Stanley Cups by the Penguins. SORRAH!

The entire state of Texas has so many damned titles to choose from: Houston Rockets, Dallas Cowboys, San Antonio Spurs, UT's 2006 NCAA title, etc.

Even the Florida Marlins, established in 1993, has two World series wins in their young age. One of them over Cleveland, which still stabs our hearts to this day.

Even a mid-market team like Kansas City won a WS in 1985.

Philly is now off the multi-sports misery list with the soon-to-be Back-To-Back WS Champion Phillies (hopefully) and Seattle is no longer a 3-sport city. Otherwise, they'd be our nearest competitors in sports futility.

I'm just convinced that winning is what happens to OTHER cities. When Cleveland loses, it's almost always in the most heartbreaking fashion possible. Our pitching sucks. Our defensive coordinator has no plan. We can't stop the superstar. We have a superstar but no offensive plan, coaching or help. Our bats take a vacation. We lack killer instinct. We play not to lose instead of playing to win. We can't FINISH THE DAMNED JOB, JOSE MESA!!!!

What is it that other teams have that Cleveland's teams always seem to be missing?

Is it luck? Is it non-inept sports management? Is it great drafts (which, again, is luck)? Cohesiveness? Coaching?

Or is it just that other teams plain and simple WANT it more?

Does every athlete besides LeBron James in this city not have a stitch of killer instinct?

Being a fan in the most snake-bitten city in all of sports means never having to feel sorry for other people's supposed "futility".
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 11:26 AM
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5. Remember that time the Red Sox came from 3-1 down to beat the Indians?
Hooo Nelly!

Oh sorry, I was acting like a Yankees fan there for a minute.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 11:29 AM
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6. I fully expected it to happen! That's the worst part!
"OK, so something good is happening. We got the Red Sox right where we want them.

Cuuuuuuuue the avalanche . . .. ."

:rofl: Every subsequent game was a blowout.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 01:33 PM
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8. Yeah, those games weren't close...and as a fan of America's Team...
...I remember not being all that worried when they were down 3-1...it just seemed to me they would pull it out, and I am usually pessimisstic about all things Red Sox.
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 01:13 PM
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7. +1
Edited on Thu Oct-29-09 01:29 PM by Auggie
Great post

I voted Cleveland. It appears to me it's becoming a destination athletes try to avoid.
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 03:10 AM
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12. I'd say Seattle but my Sonics won in 79
granted I was still a young pup and didn't care about sports. With the Seahawks making it to the SB a few years back the Seattle sports scene has seen a bit more screen time....

I'd have to agree that the Cleveland based teams seem to be in a major drought
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 03:11 AM
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13. And not to forget, the Indians beat my M's
in game 7 and went to the WS, and then you guys lost to the Marlins(if memory serves me right).
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Capt. America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 11:32 AM
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14. We'll always have the Cleveland Crunch championship!!!! Whee!!!!
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 11:56 AM
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17. And . . . and . . . Michael Symon won Iron Chef!
That is, if you count that as a "sport".

And I think St. Ignatius won three national titles in football in the 90s.

It seems like that's the closest we're going to come.
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Angleae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 11:45 PM
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10. Seattle
Only Seahawks and Mariners left. Neither one any good.
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Capt. America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 11:36 AM
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15. However, at least the Seachickens have gone to a Superbowl, the Clowns have not.
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 11:55 PM
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11. Phoenix metro area
Edited on Thu Oct-29-09 11:56 PM by JonLP24
Ok they have the Diamondbacks who won in 2001 but I'm a Rockies fan so they don't matter. No other champions. Well we do have the Mercury but I became more of Candace Parker fan when she scored 34 points, 12 rebounds, 8 assists against the Mercury in her FIRST EVER WNBA game. Greatest pro debut I ever seen since Anquan Boldin.

Edit/Arizona State baseball has some championships but I'm sure other cities fan find a Champion somewhere if they look deep enough.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 01:46 PM
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18. How the fuck can you include shit sports towns without San Diego atop that list?
Ain't won shit...ain't never gonna win shit. College...Pro...minor league...whatever you got sports-wise we suck at it. It's fucking sad that the biggest accomplishment we have here is a little-kiddie-league world series win.

We're so used to being flat out bad, that the Chargers being mediocre is a big old step up for us.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 02:19 PM
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19. I had to go with KC.
Losing Baseball and Football teams and no Hockey or Basketball teams at all. At least Cleveland has the Cavs.
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