The Florida Gators of the SEC cheated?? No way!! The SEC is an honorable conference!!

Okay. Maybe so. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5392159 Urban Meyer has become the biggest tool in sports.

It's hard to fault the team or head coach if a player who's graduating is taking money after his last game (but before the bowl). If the players were getting payments all season, or even before they started at the school, that would be another matter since the coaching staff and athletic department would be in a position where they might be turning a blind eye for the sake of wins. I have no problem vacating the bowl win if Pouncey took the money since he should have been ineligible for the bowl game.

On the other hand, if you want to see a coach and staff actively involved in violations, you need to look no further than the Big Ten's Michigan who admitted in May it had committed a series of violations related to practice time and coaching activities.

Once an investigation gets rolling, some more violations turn up. Like the illegal drugs El Toolo is taking to maintain his sanity. He doen't have Saint Tim anymore to take a knee with and pray to the Almighty for divine inspiration. As for RichRod. Isn't he from WVU? Just a couple years removed? Wasn't Bowden from WVU? Am I drawing a parallel? You betcha'.

If the allegations are true, there should have been better oversight; the kid was still a college player. If you are claiming that Michigan's coaching staff was complicit in NCAA violations because a few practices ran over by 20 minutes or so then UF is complicit in this for not making sure their athletes knew better than to take anything from agents while their eligibility was current. Lack of institutional control

There was an anonymous letter sent from..... Canada.... to someone alleging a player took funds from an agent a few weeks prior to his last game.

Florida's AD immediately called Florida law enforcement and the NCAA to report this anonymous allegation that anyone here could make toward any school.

Same thing happened about 10 years ago. UF and NCAA investigated and found a player (Jevon Kearse) made some agreements with agents to get a new Benz as soon as he played his last game. NCAA commended Florida for acting as soon as any allegation were found out. Agent (One, Tank Black) went to Federal prison for defrauding other NFL players out of their salaries.

Again, UF and possibly the most respected AD in the country, Jeremy Foley, were held up by The NCAA as a model program in dealing with allegations of this sort.

Since then The State of Florida has enacted laws that make it a 2nd degree felony for an agent to offer anything to a player in Florida that could make him lose his eligibility. This also bring subpoena power to the process, unlike many/most states with NCAA investigations.

This will likely become a teaching moment for the NCAA. How to act, like Florida has, even in the unlikeliest event the allegations are true vs USC doing the Sgt. Schultz.... I know nothing act for 4 years.

I'm inclined to agree with you at this point. It wouldn't shock me to find an NFL bound player got started a little ahead of his bowl game, and given that he signed with a well known agent, this may be another agent pissed that he didn't get the player, but I'm struggling to figure out exactly what Florida did wrong here. Unless they knew, or should have been able to reasonably tell, that he took the money before the bowl game and let him play anyway, I'm not sure which law or rule was violated. I still don't have a problem with forfeiting the bowl game, if the player was shown to be ineligible.

My point about Michigan was that the coaching staff was actively involved in the violations, and failed to file the sort of paperwork they were supposed to file which was designed to prevent the sort of thing they were accused of (overworking players).

Florida still sucks but not as much as a Big Orange.

You wouldn't know anything about great football. It's like someone from Indiana bragging up Big Ten football.

One can still be well rounded in the knowledge of football and watches a lot of football within a conference (like the SEC) to recognize what is great football. Rooting for a not-so-great football team, I don't believe has an impact one way or the other of what they see as great football.

is from. FYI I am 'from' The Panama Canal Zone and raised in Georgia. I was at Vince Dooley's FIRST game as Coach @ UG. I fart footballs in the fall. Kentucky, which you so easily put down has been to FOUR straight bowl games. Now, yes we usually finish in the bottom half of the SEC motherfucking East, BUT, how many teams in the country would fare in the toughest division in any sport or league in the country. Kentucky is the ONLY state in the Union that has all of its Division 1 teams head coached by black men. Progressive program on the rise. Beware FOUR STRAIGHT BOWL GAMES Now, I've hopefully educated you on the subject I bet I can guess who the next poster on this will be. GO CATS BTW I have been called a Kentucky queer because I like football and sex better than UK basketball. Peace, R

and if your use of that school as a comparison to another basketball school you are wrong there too. Hoosier b-ball sucks. They won't play us since the asshat Knight left, I mean got fired. Can't wait for football though and maybe I'll see you elsewhere. R

I figured that might get you a little fired up. Happyiowan (me wife) is a UGA grad. She loves her Dawgs, too. If Iowa were to play UGA, though, she'd be a Hawk. Seriously.

program because he is such a great guy. We do point out that is the SEC here, I can't wait for kickoff this year. See you later.

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but not an apologist. I'll only go so far as to say that all major schools have violations all the time, the only question is, who gets caught? This time, it looks like it's Florida's turn in the barrel. Now that Saint Tim is gone, Florida will get smacked around a bit, just like the NCAA waited until Pete Carroll was gone before coming down on USC.

My particular team is Alabama, and we're no stranger to violations, I can admit easily. It's just that all teams do it. I imagine our practices go over just like Michigan's do, we just haven't been caught yet. Notre Dame does the same thing.

but as someone who followed the USC investigation closely it looks like it was the other way around. Carroll left before the hammer came down. It was an ongoing investigation that looked at the entire athletic program to see if there was an overall lack of institutional control because of also the Mayo dealings where USC self-sanctioned their basketball program. I'm getting off track--around the time Carroll left, the investigation was finalizing and had a projected decision date sometime in the spring

On edit-confused spring with fall :banghead:.

So, he bolted to the pros where he will fail miserably. He won at SC because he held a huge talent discrepancy over his rivals. He didn't win on strategy. He won because his guys were bigger stronger and faster than their opponents.

He won't have that advantage in the NFL where it's all about strategy.

Not the laddies. No way.

America's Team. Yeah--->:P

Only the Dallas Cowboys shall be referred to as America's Team.

:D

Cowboys are not America's Team. I liked Roger Staubach, hated Landry ( that sports kind of hate). Cannot stand the colors or the uniform. I can still remember old Look or Life magazine with an article of Navy shorttimer Roger getting his arm in shape tossing passes on an aircraft carrier before he went Pro. How much better he would have been if he didn't have to wait 5 years to be able to turn pro. ... Getting closer to kickoff. ... Later

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5396236 Hey. Remember that time the SEC broke some rules??

about the agents. Seriously. Some kid decides to go to a party, and it turns out an agent is the one hosting it, so it's the university's fault?

If these agents lost their license for a year or two, maybe they'd back off.

But Iowa City isn't Gainesville or Tuscaloosa, is it? However, we do have one of next years Top 5 in the draft. Still. It's Iowa City. No excuse.

FWIW, agents are crawling around Tuscaloosa. Saban is the one calling for them to lose a year's license when they pull crap like this, and I agree with him. The agents don't lose anything when violations happen, and they're the ones causing the violations.

calling the charge ridiculous. Said he cooperated with all investigations.... UF, SEC, NCAA and Florida Law Enforcement. Family has provided those investigating all bank and financial records.

His twin brother also answered all questions ask of him on this at SEC Media Day, saying the same as his brother. Also, saying how hurt his mother and father are having their family name drawn through the mud by media reports.

Urban Meyer, who has no role in any investigation, said he asked both brothers if there was anything to this 6 weeks ago when this letter arrived. Both said no. The anonymous letter making this accusation, send from Canada, came 6 weeks ago.

Like I said, above..... this will be a teaching moment for many on how the self reporting is supposed to work when allegations come to light. Even stupid ones like this one. After all, there were only 27 days days between the SEC champ game and the Sugar Bowl. Wait 27 days and a player can take all the $$$ he wants from his agent. But, school boys have done dumber things, for sure. These guys don't seem as dumb as most, however.

country. Welcome aboard!! LOL .. 43 Days 20 hours until kickoff at little brothers Papa Johns Pizza Pit . 09/04/10 Those Wildcats of Kentucky at Louisville / Louisville, Ky. 3:30 p.m. ET ON ABC

college sports. Jail terms would be nice for the agents A small check each month from their schools for the players would be nice. If you are a poor kid on scholarship school and practice are full time. No time left to work a legitimate part time job for walking around money. The NCAA is so fucked up that they don't realize how much THEY are fucking up college sports. Make some state laws and put the crooked leech agents in jail. Years ago it was ok to give players a little bit of 'laundry money'.