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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 09:21 AM
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Trumad Was Right. I Was Wrong
The Bulls depth just doesn't matter when neither team is going past 8 deep.

The Bulls just don't have a legit #2 option and it's killing them in this series.

Just had to come clean and admit to Tru that i was wrong.
GAC
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 09:25 AM
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1. The real problem is youth...
I think that's showing in the OKC-Dallas matchup as well.
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 09:28 AM
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2. I think
Bulls have a solid 4 out of 5 starters rather than just Rose. Rose, Deng, Noah, and Boozer. They don't got shit for a 2-guard which may be killing them but I haven't seen a second of this series. Bulls probably need a solid swingman.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 10:04 AM
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4. Boozer Isn't An ECF Player
He has had success in the playoffs, but in the much different western conference. The gritty, bang and bump style of this series does not suit him.

Deng is very good all around player, but can't create his own space and shot. Hard worker, smart defender, but doesn't have the instincts to attack on offense. And Noah is not an offensive threat. He never will be. He's a brutally hard worker, and will dish it out and take it all night, but that's wearing.

During the regular season, being able to go 11 deep keeps guys fresh when they play a grindy defensive style. In the playoffs, you don't go that deep.

The basic problem is they don't have anybody who can create their own shot, other than Rose, and against a long, defensively aware team like the Heat, he is struggling.

The Bulls don't need a swingman. They need a strong two guard who can both create on the wing and knock down the open three.

Then the spacing improves and Rose becomes way harder to stop.

Until then, they'll be very good, but not a great team.
GAC
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 10:18 AM
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5. That is what I meant by
swingman. Perhaps my definition is off but I picture it as someone who has range and create. MJ is the classic example of my definition of a swingman. Perhaps my definition is off but that is what I was referring to.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 10:41 AM
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6. Got It
To me, an NBA swingman is someone who can rotate between the 2 and 3. Sort of like Pippen. As a Bulls guy, (since 1969), he's my archetype of the swingman.

So, that's why i got mixed up. We were using different definitions.

Aside from that, we agree completely.
GAC
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 09:43 AM
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3. I actually thought you were right...
I've said from the beginning of the season the Heat needed a bi man and more depth. I seriously did no think they would go this far in the playoffs.

With that said... The Big three are certainly playing amazing ball especially Bosh.

It ain't with the Bulls just yet.
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RockaFowler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 11:19 AM
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7. What happened to the Game 1 Bulls??
Only Rose can handle the ball now. They did have more points in the paint last night, and they did look better than they did in Game 3. But they seem to have lost the fire they had in Game 1. I'm not sure if it's the atmosphere or that they are just too green. Maybe next year they can move forward like the Thunder will. The Thunder should have won Game 4. Just a total collapse. But again it may be because they are so "green".
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 01:31 PM
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8. What Happened Was The Heat. . .
. . .adjsuted their defense and picked up their intensity and the Bulls haven't been able to adapt.

Like i said earlier, in the playoffs, rotations only go 8 deep. The Heat's firsts 8 players are a bit better than the Bulls first 8. In total points, there isn't muc separating the two teams. But, the Bulls won one by 21, so it's easy to see how they would be down 3 - 1.

As big a Bulls fan as i am, i have to admit the Heat is just outplaying the Bulls in this series.
GAC
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 06:38 PM
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9. Game 1 Bulls could reappear in Game 5
Miami extended an enormous amount of energy taking this 3-1 lead. With only one day between games, I could see a content approach in Game 5 equating to Chicago advantage.

Note the Heat played at Boston after two consecutive wins, and lost by 16. They won the final two games vs. the Celtics then played at Chicago and lost by 21. Miami has done well on the road after a loss. Tomorrow they travel to Chicago after a string of wins.

The Bulls are hardly shell shocked. Oklahoma City is shell shocked, and facing a terrible situational spot in Game 5. Chicago is merely discouraged. I still think it will be quite a hurdle for the Heat to close out this series, another tight win required.

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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-11 01:00 AM
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10. Every time I wonder why I prefer betting on the first half
I get an example like that.

Chicago +5.5 in game 4. Screwed in OT

Chicago -2.5 in game 5. Up 12 with 3 minutes remaining.

Luckily I'm a Heat fan. :)
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-11 06:32 AM
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11. You posted earlier
That the Heat simply had to step it up at the end of games and close some business.

I think they heard you because they have most certainly figured it out.

The transformation of this team is close to shocking. I seriously thought they would be done in the second round... Because of the no depth and big man problem.

I'll say it again--- can you imagine when they add those two elements?

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