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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 05:22 PM
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Poll question: Packers and Colts: which one runs the table?
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 05:47 PM
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1. Ordinarily this Bawlmer native would be thoroughly enjoying the Dolts' implosion
but I suspect that "Suck for Luck" is involved. No one can be that bad. And once they get him sewn up, they'll be right back in business for another decade or more. :(
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 05:59 PM
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2. Gotta go with the Colts...I think GB has a chance, but the Colts
really seem to be more determined to go the distance.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 12:06 AM
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6. My thoughts exactly.
Both the Colts and GB will be trying to run the table, but only one of them will face opposition.
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 07:30 PM
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3. Neither
Colts could win one of two against the Jags, and Packers have back-to-back road games against the Lions and Giants.
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 08:49 PM
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4. Packers will go unbeaten
Edited on Mon Nov-07-11 08:50 PM by Awsi Dooger
Only three remaining road games and they won't be touched at home. In this era the premier quarterbacks are virtually invincible at home, as evidenced by New England's long streak.

Rodgers is more cocky than any of the quarterbacks who have threatened unbeaten seasons recently -- Brady, Manning and Brees. He's not going to let this opportunity pass. The fact that so many chances have popped up recently indicates how imbalanced the league has become, and hints that one of the chances will go all the way. Heck, Green Bay has already won 14 consecutive games dating to last season. They are well settled into the role.

With the changes in defensive rules and interpretation, a dominant passing team has a ridiculous advantage in this era and Green Bay is taking advantage of it, not unlike the '72 Dolphins who abused the liberal pass defense rules by wiping out opposing receivers at the line of scrimmage.
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a kennedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 12:29 PM
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12. I'm terribly nervous about Detroit....and on Thanksgiving...
ugh.... I'll be so excited to eat if the Packers win, or I'll be so upset if they don't, either way, my holiday is shot..... . :cry: :cry: :cry: GO PACKERS GO!!!
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 12:42 PM
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17. Did you see the Lions Sunday?
Not much to worry about
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 09:00 PM
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5. This Packers fan does not see Green Bay coming close.
If the D had improved post the bye, maybe. But the D was not better, and it might be even worse. At some point, that matters. And, unfortunately, that point really hits in the playoffs.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 02:48 AM
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7. The Colts have to tank it now.
The Dolphins won a game. Apparently there is a gem QB coming out next year.

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bluedigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:45 AM
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8. Colts - Bob Ryan thinks Peyton is done...
The question may not be when Peyton Manning returns. It’s whether it is advisable for him to do so.

An orthopedic surgeon of my acquaintance explains that “nerves regenerate, if they do at all, fairly slowly.’’ A shoulder injury involving nerves requires a recuperation time of 12-15 months, for example.

Then he says, “these figures are for peripheral nerves, not central nerves. Peripheral nerves are those in the arms or legs. Central nerves are those in the spinal cord area, at the neck, for instance. Central nerves recover more slowly, if they do at all.’’ He goes on to say, “Further, the distance from the neck to the point of innervation is also longer in this situation, perhaps 18-24 inches , so any recovery, if it comes at all, will take a very long time. Further, if recovery does not occur in a timely fashion, nerve recovery is immaterial, because the neuromuscular junction will then never recover and the muscle will not work, no matter the status of the nerve.’

’Don’t you agree with me that it sounds as if Peyton Manning should just quit? I understand that he loves football and is a great competitor. But he is also a husband, father, son, and brother, and his general long-term health should be his No. 1 priority, not getting back on the football field. Peyton Manning is an all-time great player with nothing whatsoever to prove to anyone.
Continued...
http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2011/11/08/patriots_season_is_still_salvageable/

Peyton won't quit, of course, but the Colts gotta do what the Colts gotta do...
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RockaFowler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 11:15 AM
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9. I know someone else said it, but
How could a team go to the Super Bowl 2 years ago and stink this much this year?? You mean to tell me that Peyton was the entire team?? He won 11+ games each season all on his own?? Something stinks in Indy
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 11:23 AM
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10. Watching that Super Bowl I was really thinking we were watching a team that had peaked
and was going to start its slide...it was an old team...even with peyton playing this year i don't think they'd be a serious contender.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 02:03 PM
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11. What Joey Said!
I think they were headed for a 9 win season anyway. They haven't reloaded at the receiver position like they did a few years back. And, the defensive secondary has been sliding since before the SB appearance.

And, they played in a weak division the last couple years. Texas hadn't learned to win, TN was poor, etc. When they won 12 games, they had 3 to 5 freebies. They were already only a 9 or 10 win team in a tougher division, like the AFC North or East.

I'm surprised they're THIS bad, but i think they were clearly on the decline.
GAC
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 06:09 PM
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13. Wait until Green Bay gets home
People are doubting them based on defense. Not much longer. Once a team like that returns home after overcoming several recent major road tests to remain unbeaten, the confidence soars and the defense mends and any margin is possible. The Packers had trouble with Minnesota a couple of weeks ago. Now the rookie Ponder is sent on the road, into an changed set of variables he can't begin to imagine.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 11:29 AM
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14. If I could, I'd change my vote to "both" now...
GB really only has two challenges left...at the Giants and at Detroit...can't see them having trouble with any of their other remaining games...
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 12:07 PM
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15. The only one I am concerned about is the Lions. My father has a loooooonnnggg
memory, and brings up the 1962 Thanksgiving Day game all the time. The Lions wrecked the Packers' perfect 10-0 season.

http://www.jsonline.mobi/more/sports/packers/133707958.htm
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 12:29 PM
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16. I tend to think the Giants have the better chance...although NY is very
unpredictable...can play great (corss-reference, NE Pats, November 6, 2011) then stink it up at times...who knows????
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 12:59 PM
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18. Living in Detroit for 25 years and seeing the battle the Lions have put
up against the Packers (compared with the not as many tickets available to Packer fans this year) it's hard to not give the Lions the chance. Divisional and/or great rivalries are seemingly harder ones to win. I won't breathe easy until it's 1 second left in the 4th quarter with a two score lead on Thanksgiving Day. Clay Matthews looks like he's coming around and not overplaying so I'm a teensy bit less worried about the Giants. Although I worry every Game Day. :)
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 12:21 AM
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19. I say neither (nt)
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 12:28 AM
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20. What kind of a friend are you???
I know they're playing the Giants and all coming up...but still. ;)

Now I'm glad I dumped Eli as my backup quarterback in fantasy. :P

Seriously though...:hug:
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 01:05 AM
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21. Actually
Edited on Wed Nov-16-11 01:05 AM by bigwillq
looking at their sked just now, they have a very good chance of finishing 16-0.

Giants have a good shot, maybe the Bears, but that one is in GB, and maybe the Lions in Detroit. Maybe.

For being the SB champs, I have to say GB has a pretty weak schedule. :P

Giants didn't even make the playoffs and their sked is brutal.

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