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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 10:33 PM
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Toronto Blue Jays fans are jerks
I just got back from the Jays vs. Red Sox game. It was relatively full in the Rogers Center tonight, and I got another dose of that medicine called "why Toronto is a stupid baseball town". First of all, their fans continue to cheer really loud when nothing happens and ignore rather important plays. It's like they don't even know what baseball is. But that's neither here nor there.

Now, I'll make it known I'm a Red Sox fan and that I was wearing my Sox hat and cheering for my guys. But I'll also say that I don't boo the other team unless it's the Yanks, and that's practically an obligation. From the first batter to the last batter, however, the Jays fans relentlessly booed every Red Sock who came to the plate. They also started chanting "Boston sucks" in the *third* inning when there was still no score. Furthermore, winning a 2-1 game when 13 of your batters strike out is nothing to get too excited about, although the Sox definately played a lackluster game.

I've only seen games in Toronto, Boston and Denver. My experience is rather limited. However, the night I was in attendance at Fenway, during a game against the Jays in 2002, there was absolutely no booing of the Jays. None. At Coors Field, the list of people to boo is:

1) Rockies pitchers
2) Barry Bonds

Everybody else gets a pass. In all the games I've been to in Toronto, the booing is pretty constant. It's like they don't even have a team to root for, the fans are just there to hate on the visitors. That's not condusive to fun. I don't even care that the guys across the aisle were yelling "Fuck you!" at the top of their lungs at the Red Sox consistently throughout the game in front of a bunch of kids and their parents. Hosers like that can be found everywhere. Here's the worst part:

After the game, the "Red Sox suck" chants poured out into the street. Now, after the game that's one thing (third inning is premature, IMHO). My friend, a Jays fan, suggested I remove my hat. I declined. That was when some of the people in the crowd started chanting "Red Sox: Go back to Japan" in reference to Dice-K and reliever Okajima (who made the Jays look like idiots in the 8th by striking out their three best hitters). Go back to Japan? That's rediculous. I was hoping some of the Japanese fans and media would start some shit after that, but I guess they've got too much class. There were certainly plenty of them in attendence. "Go back to Japan" is just inexcusable. And here I've been told ad nauseum how diverse and tolerant Canadian culture is :(

This makes about the dozenth time I've left the dome thinking Jays fans are tools. I've never been impressed by them or their fair-weather support. Blech.
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ClusterFreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 04:32 PM
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1. Sorry for your luck...
Edited on Wed Apr-18-07 04:34 PM by Chimpys_Last_Stand
...I've been to Jays games several times myself, though not in the last few years. I have actually noticed a somewhat malevolent tone coming from the stands at Toronto hockey and basketball games, over the last year. That's from what I've heard by watching the games on TV. But the booing has been against the home team. A small but vocal minority of Toronto fans have become a fairly impatient and to some degree an obnoxious lot, at least in my opinion, over the last year or so. 40 years without a Stanley Cup? A perennially bad basketball team (until this year)? I did watch on TV the game you were at, and from what I heard it sounded like "Blue Jays suck!" coming from the fans, many of whom were Red Sox fans like yourself on some bus trip up from Boston or environs. Again, I heard it through the TV...you were there.

I agree that fans can be obnoxious, and child like, but really...it happens everywhere. I watched a Jays game last year where they were on the road somewhere and the fans there were ruthlessly chanting "Blue Jays suck!!" non-stop, virtually throughout the entire game. It got so bad that the announcers actually commented on it.

Anyway, I hope you have a better visit to Toronto next time.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 05:09 PM
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2. LOL - I was at a game (in Seattle) once when some people wearing Boston gear
dumped beer on some Canadian fans who were there to see Toronto play. The Canadians got a little miffed - insisted on getting money for drycleaning, etc. - which I thought was ridiculous since you shouldn't wear stuff that needs to get drycleaned to a baseball game!
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nealmhughes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 06:23 PM
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3. That is so odd, I've been to lots of games at Shea and Busch and never saw any booing.
Actually, at the last game I was at, there were LA fans sitting in our midst, and we had a blast with them after the game in Festus, MO, where their hotel as well as ours was.

Now the rowdiness of the crowd at Brian Dennehy Stadium at Tuscaloosa against Tennessee or Florida fans is something to be ashamed of. . .
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 01:16 AM
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4. You'd think that Shea would be kind of rowdy
I've always heard it has a bit of a lively reputation for fans, shall we say, "speaking their minds".

For a bit of an update, I've spoken with a couple of friends today, who have informed me that the Jays would be the best team in any other division. Well, that may be so, but they're not. Eras come and go. This is the era of the American League. Let's not talk about how bad the Yankees were for awhile in the previous era (remember the George Costanza rant about Steinbrenner before 1996 rolled around?). Another friend told me that a mutual friend of ours (from Toronto but roots for the Canadiens) who was at the game also commented on his annoyance at the bad behavior of the Toronto fans and all the people he heard calling Matsuzaka "ricecake", which is total bullshit on their part 'cause I doubt they called Ohka the same thing tonight. I'm going back tomorrow for more abuse against Halladay... if those two idiots who yelled "fuck you!!!!!!" about ten times per inning last game are back, I'm going to freak out.
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 10:52 PM
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14. Granted I'm a Mets fan...
but I've been to a few games at Shea and unless the Mets are playing Atlanta, the Yankees or there's been some sort of controversy (like the Jimmy Rollins dust-up) they really don't boo opposing teams without any reason. Most of the ribbing of opposing fans has been of the good natured variety, in my experience. I have however dealt with a few assholes at Phillies games...but that goes without saying :P
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 08:59 AM
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17. Have a seat Rev. Smitty, and I'll tell you a story of the Mets and Philly...
Back in '86, on a whim I bought - four months ahead of time - tickets for the Mets game in Philly. My folks and I lived in Norfolk but my sister was living in Philly, as was my uncle. We get these tickets and as time for the game creeps up on us, it becomes THE game when the Metropolitans could clinch the National League East.

First mistake: We actually decide to go to the game!
Second mistake: I take my mother!
Third mistake: She agrees to go!

The Mets sucked. Gooden pitched lousy, Mookie made an error in front of us. But, this being the Mets at the Vet, the game did not grab our primary attention.

There were more Mets fans than Philly fans, and the Mets fans had started their drinking about around Molly Pitcher or Joyce Kilmer. Whenever the Mets started to do something remotely competent, they started parading in the stadium with bed sheet 'art' and the Philly fans threw things at them. Then this huge brawl broke out in the upper right field deck. Bodies were being hurled over rows of seats and everything. By this point, no one's watching the game. Suddenly, all the bouncers converged on the section at once and restored peace to the section. I tried to convince my mother that this was NOT a typical baseball game! .

The Mets lost and many of the drunken fans spent the night sleeping in parks to wait for the Saturday afternoon game.

What a weekend.
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 12:15 PM
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18. Oh the Vet...
there was something about that place that brought out everyone's inner asshole. I've seen grown men taunt little kids, it was a madhouse...and I've never even attended an Eagles game. Being a Giants fan I figured that would practically be suicide. I've actually seen more Mets games there than at Shea and I have to say it was always fun simply because the Mets/Phillies fan ratio was about 1:1. Never had the pleasure of seeing a drunken brawl though
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rep the dems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 02:42 PM
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19. I only saw the Phils play the Mets and Yankees once each at the Vet.
Both times I had real bad seats next to some New York fans. The Yankee group were loud as anything, but they started to quiet down when the Phillies pulled ahead and proceded to shut the Yanks out 5-0. My first major league game too. Incredible.
The Mets game was pretty similar, only their fans were reading newspapers by the end of the game.
:rofl:
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 10:44 AM
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8. At Camden Yards, when the Sox are there, the upper deck is all Sox fans. nt
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 05:57 AM
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5. "Boston sucks"
Bad bad Blue Jay fans....

If you're going to chant shit like that at least get it right.

BOSTON BLOWS!

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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 10:23 AM
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6. Boooooo
Look, I don't mind people making chants like that in their own stadium, but at least reserve them for late innings when your team is already ahead. Don't go around doing it in the 3rd with no score. That's just idiotic.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 10:43 AM
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7. I disagree, doing it in late innings is rubbing it in. That's not cool.
I've been to several games at Skydome and found the fans to be polite.

The Sox are getting the top of the heap treatment. They should welcome the jeers. That means you've made it.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 11:40 AM
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9. What, kick 'em when they're down?
If your team is ahead, that's the time to have a little grace! Everyone understands being upset when your team is behind, but if your team is ahead, there is no excuse to taunt the fans of the other team (unless it's the Bulls or the Avalanche, which is different).
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 04:24 PM
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10. LOL. Sux fans started a Yankees suck chant at the Patriot's Super Bowl parade
So I am sorry but you forfeit any sympathy about any booing.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 05:15 PM
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11. I don't mind the Yankees
In fact, if it were the Yankees fans booing the Sox from start to finish, I'd have no problem. That's what the rivalry is all about. All of what happened on Tuesday just seemed out of place. Oh well, I went again today and the comeback was great. Go Sox!!!
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 05:40 PM
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13. "just seemed out of place" I hear ya.
I went to see the NY Giants in Seattle last year.

First off, Seahawks fans are basically Raider fans in teal. Its all about getting dressed up in ridiculous costumes, one guy had oversized mickey mouse gloves on another was dressed as some bizarre love child of the cookie monster and the dude from scream. It was simply awful.

But there at the game while making my way to my see at the urging of her father a timid girl of maybe 5 years booed me. Yup, walked right up to me and yelled boo.

Most disconcerting thing to ever happpen to me at an opposing stadium ;-)
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 05:22 PM
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12. I was at a game at Coors when they played the Giants
I'm an American League gal but wanted to see the new field.

I had never seen Bonds play before and was surprised at the boos every time he came to bat or handled a fly ball. He had a poor night and everyone was thrilled.

By the way, I loved the club level seats at Coors. Imagine having snacks served at your seat! Loved it.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 05:37 AM
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15. Imagine having snacks served at your seat!
Ya mean like a hot dog?
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:54 AM
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16. Not just hot dogs and peanuts
You order from a "waiter" who brings the food to you. It was a far cry from standing in line at the concession stands at Fenway - the only other park I've been to.

They did have good brats!

:D
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