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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 11:50 AM
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The REAL list: "10 Best Quarterbacks Ever" (not compiled by ESPN assbags)
Courtesy of Cold Hard Football Facts:

http://coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_2103_The_definitive_list%3A_Top_10_NFL_quarterbacks.html

Gotta read it. You'll like it...there are two Packers on there, and only one Patriot. :)
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 12:33 PM
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1. Personally, I have an issue comparing professional athletes from different eras
Not to dump on your post -- it's an interesting read and one I'm glad you to took the trouble to find. But a lot can change over 50 years -- rules, equipment, schedules, conditioning/training, and in the case of football specifically, the size and shape of the players.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 12:50 PM
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2. But where's Bobby Layne?
Toughest QB ever, according to Sports Illustrated a few years ago.


http://info.detnews.com/history/story/index.cfm?id=86&category=sports
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 01:17 PM
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3. I would have to agree with that assessment.
I only know of Graham and Baugh's reputations.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:23 PM
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4. It's interesting, for sure.
You hardly ever hear of Starr mentioned in "greatest ever" discussions, and he comes out on top. They make a pretty good case for him, too. And I say that as a rabid Packer-hating Vikes fan.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:25 PM
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5. You should check out that whole website
They do great work, really objective analyses...and they're funny bastards, too.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:29 PM
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6. Yup - just to re-open old wounds...
I looked at the best non-champions. TWO Vikes teams made it on the list! How nice!
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 04:25 PM
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7. That may well be but their site is as so as molasses.
:mad:
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 04:42 PM
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9. Not for me.
:shrug:
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 04:56 PM
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11. I think it's a browser thing...
it worked fine with safari. :crazy:
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 04:26 PM
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8. That's about the stupidest post you've ever made Pitt.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 04:43 PM
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10. I thought you'd like that.
Lack of hardware makes for tough assessments.

:)
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 06:05 PM
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12. Then where the fuck is Doug Williams or Joe Theisman or
what's his name from Tampa or what's his name from the Ravens.

It seriously is one of the dumbest assesmvaughanj@ix.netcom.coments I've ever read.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 06:35 PM
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13. They are after Jeff George!
:hide:
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 07:11 AM
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15. Ha ha
For your information, Sammy Baugh IS largely considered on of the greatest Redskins ever (he always makes the fan lists). I'm fine with him being on the list..btw recent poll greatest Redskin ever (fan pick): Darryl Green.
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:30 AM
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14. Can't argue heavily with that list
Starr is definitely underrated. He was able to throw downfield successfully whether the Packer ground game was at top form or merely mediocre. That summation makes note of the terrific YPPA numbers.

However, he was INT prone, typical of that era and until the '80s. Starr's lifetime Adjusted Yards Per Pass Attempt, which includes INTs, is quite low at 6.4. Modern QBs are significantly above that range. I think Montana was 6.9.
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a kennedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:28 AM
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16. Gotta love that.....a #10 AND a #1 now that is fantastic......
GO PACK GO. :) :toast: :bounce: :thumbsup: :woohoo: :applause:
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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:58 AM
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17. Bart Starr
I am somewhat surprised people do not hear more about Bart Starr.
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:11 AM
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18. I'd agree with that list...
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 12:30 PM
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19. Geez...Brady can't hold a candle to Babe Parilli! Or even Steve Grogan!
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