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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-05 03:23 PM
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RW opposes cervical cancer vaccine-promotes promiscuity
Will cancer vaccine get to all women?
18 April 2005
NewScientist.com news service
Debora MacKenzie

DEATHS from cervical cancer could jump fourfold to a million a year by 2050, mainly in developing countries. This could be prevented by soon-to-be-approved vaccines against the virus that causes most cases of cervical cancer - but there are signs that opposition to the vaccines might lead to many preventable deaths.

The trouble is that the human papilloma virus (HPV) is sexually transmitted. So to prevent infection, girls will have to be vaccinated before they become sexually active, which could be a problem in many countries.

In the US, for instance, religious groups are gearing up to oppose vaccination, despite a survey showing 80 per cent of parents favor vaccinating their daughters. "Abstinence is the best way to prevent HPV," says Bridget Maher of the Family Research Council, a leading Christian lobby group that has made much of the fact that, because it can spread by skin contact, condoms are not as effective against HPV as they are against other viruses such as HIV. "Giving the HPV vaccine to young women could be potentially harmful, because they may see it as a license to engage in premarital sex," Maher claims, though it is arguable how many young women have even heard of the virus.

~snip~

Vaccines are producing good results in clinical trials, and the first could be licensed as early as next year. GlaxoSmithKline announced in November 2004 that its vaccine, which contains two strains of HPV thought to cause 70 per cent of cervical cancers, had prevented 90 per cent of new infections and all persistent infections. The US-based firm Merck announced similar results last week with its vaccine, which contains the same two cancer-causing HPV strains plus two strains that cause genital warts.

~snip~

http://www.newscientist.com/channel/sex/mg18624954.500
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ktowntennesseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-05 03:32 PM
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1. Give me a break!!! (Almost) unbelievable.
Too bad the parents of all those nuts didn't practice what they preach.

I say if you're gonna extol abstinence, do it consistantly! Maybe a couple of generations from now things will become a little more sane around here!
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-05 03:33 PM
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2. Pro-life, huh?
These assholes make me sick! They are the absolute worst hypocrites on earth. What vermin!
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-05 03:36 PM
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3. This is utterly reprehensible and ridiculous.
Deserves wider exposure in the GD forum.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-05 03:46 PM
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4. Oh fer Pete's sake!
Could these people be more obtuse?

:eyes:
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-05 03:53 PM
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5. I want my country back
and I want these a$$holes out of control.:cry:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-05 03:58 PM
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6. oh my goddess!! this is got be be one the worst things I have ever

heard--coming out of the mouth of the pious Right!!


........In the US, for instance, religious groups are gearing up to oppose vaccination, despite a survey showing 80 per cent of parents favor vaccinating their daughters. "Abstinence is the best way to prevent HPV," says Bridget Maher of the Family Research Council, a leading Christian lobby group that has made much of the fact that, because it can spread by skin contact, condoms are not as effective against HPV as they are against other viruses such as HIV.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-05 03:59 PM
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7. we ALL ned to send this article to our congresspeople!! and keep
sending it!!
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Robert Oak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-05 04:00 PM
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8. I see, if your daughter loses her hymen then she deserves to die
Nice.

How about the democratic party start pounding on these people for the
death, punishment and torture loving freaks that they are.

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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-05 04:06 PM
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9. You either are against abortions as an abomination or not. Anything
that promotes abortion and discourages knowledge about birth control or safety and self-actualization of your reproductive health will slow down abortions.. if you make it available. If you encourage people to know themselves fully. Condom use will also cut down on abortions and STDs.

What the hell do you think happens to a pregnant mother of 2 who finds out she has cervical cancer at 35? Don't you think there is likely to be an abortion? To save her life?

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put out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 11:05 PM
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10. HPV is not very nice to anyone, particularly young women.
Cervical cancer is also not kind to a young body, or an older one for that matter. HPV is pervasive in our population, people just don't realize. And that crummy crummy virus can exist in a body for years before it expresses itself, if it ever does. Or maybe it will just be carried and passed on, unseen and unknown until someone gets sick. Cervical dysplasia or cancer compromises reproductive health and mental well-being and LIFE for crying out loud. If I had a daughter and the vaccine was available, you can bet your life she would be vaccinated. I would advocate having that vaccine given at the same time as the recommended tetanus/diphtheria at 11 or 12 or so. Let us hope the vaccine proves effective and safe, and is made available in spite of the nutcases.

What in the wide world can people be thinking, to oppose something like immunity against a virus that can do so much damage?

Not the most eloquent post ever, but this quasi-religious shit makes me spitting mad. How dare these idiots screw around with people's health?
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 09:51 AM
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11. An additional issue
Is that cervical cancer in young women is so rare that doctors typically don't really consider it as a possible diagnosis until the disease is too far gone for treatment.
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yo-yo-ma Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 03:54 PM
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12. ummm -- not really
pap smears are screening tests for cervical cancer - and it is recommended that women begin pap screening after initiating sexual activity or at the age of (i think now) 21 - which ever comes first. cervical is easy to diagnos and, more importantly, entirely preventable with pap screening. it is the cancer for which screening works best. in a screened population it is rare to have any cancers beyond the earliest of stages.

where vaccines are critical are in parts of the world that lack the infrastructure for pap screening.

doctors consider cervical cancer diagnoses -- that's why they do pap smears.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 05:51 PM
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13. shhhhhhh
next they'll be arguing that we shouldn't have access to pap smears.
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 05:52 PM
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14. Oops
Must have been thinking of something else.

:blush:
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 04:06 AM
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15. Fundie logic
Vaccinate girls against HPV and they will run out and have sex...

Teach kids about sex and they will run out and have sex...

Teach kids about birth control and they will run out and have sex...

You don't need to teach kids about condoms because only those nasty gays get AIDS anyway and the Bible says you shouldn't be gay...

Idiots!


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