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shaayecanaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-10 11:14 PM Original message |
Doctors defend genital "nick" for girls |
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Zoeisright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-10 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
1. Why do girls needed to be mutilated at ALL? |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-10 11:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Why does ANYONE need to be modified at all? |
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PanoramaIsland (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-06-10 04:12 PM Response to Reply #2 |
44. Just so long as you're not reflexively anti-body modification. |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 03:25 AM Response to Reply #1 |
16. Why do boys need to be mutilated at ALL? |
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PanoramaIsland (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-06-10 04:15 PM Response to Reply #16 |
45. Sure, but circumcised men don't suffer the kind of consequences that circumcised women do. |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 01:21 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. It depends on the TYPE of female circumcision. |
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clockworkgirl21 (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 03:48 AM Response to Reply #46 |
66. Thanks! |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 09:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
30. Why do any children of any gender need to be mutilated? |
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ehrnst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-24-11 08:21 AM Response to Reply #1 |
65. It continues with diets, plastic surgery and tanning. |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-10 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
3. We should be educating... |
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shaayecanaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-10 11:27 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Thats fine... |
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petersjo02 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-10 11:33 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. The penis itself is not cut in circumcisions, |
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shaayecanaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-10 11:43 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. And no one is actually cutting off any girl's whissybits... |
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libodem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:04 PM Response to Reply #11 |
61. Oh wrongo |
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shaayecanaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-11 07:30 AM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Thats not whats being advocated here... |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 03:37 AM Response to Reply #9 |
18. It's a matter of degree |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 09:22 PM Response to Reply #9 |
31. The female genitals are not cut either in this symbolic "nick" |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 05:53 PM Response to Reply #9 |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 03:30 AM Response to Reply #3 |
17. Be disgusted. That's an okay response |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-10 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
4. While it's preferable to the massive surgery done with a piece of glass |
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shaayecanaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-10 11:24 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Circumcision in male infants causes quite a large amount of pain... |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-10 11:26 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Fortunately, enough uproar from nurses who assisted |
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shaayecanaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-10 11:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Gee, its a good job we have women here to tell us how a penis works... |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-10 11:50 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. No. When you've observed a few circumcisions, get back to me. |
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shaayecanaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-10 11:57 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. I have observed one. But if anyone is projecting, it is your good self... |
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speltwon (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-05-11 07:14 PM Response to Reply #14 |
55. One of the ways that doctors are taught to help gauge pain |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 08:29 PM Response to Reply #13 |
25. I have and it depends. Often the foreskin is still attached to penis and gets shoved or ripped |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 03:45 AM Response to Reply #6 |
19. Most of the doctors I work with don't wait long enough |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 09:30 PM Response to Reply #6 |
32. My OB does them in his office and ostensibly uses anesthetic. |
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petersjo02 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-10 11:30 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. I've been present for a number of hospital-performed circumcisions. |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-10 11:47 PM Response to Original message |
12. OK - Great - we argue about cutting clitoris vs cutting penis |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 03:50 AM Response to Reply #12 |
20. Ethnocentrism is very hard to get around |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 08:41 PM Response to Reply #12 |
28. "hear the words coming out of your mouth" |
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pansypoo53219 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 01:25 AM Response to Original message |
15. if this can end the stupidity of the full female mutilation. |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
21. why can't we ever have a thread about a wrong done to women.... |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 04:00 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Women can't handle real equality |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 05:08 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. oh bullshit |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 07:30 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. The OP was a MAN - Honey |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 08:40 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. classic assholishness.... |
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shaayecanaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:34 AM Response to Reply #27 |
35. I think its fairly relevant that male circumcision is practised... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-11 12:51 AM Response to Reply #23 |
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Jax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-26-10 02:17 PM Response to Reply #22 |
47. The forum is called CHOICE genius |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 10:50 PM Response to Reply #21 |
36. I think it's a lack of knowledge about anatomy |
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shaayecanaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 01:26 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. No one is advocating removal of any part of the clitoris |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 10:13 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Not my take on it. |
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shaayecanaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 10:44 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. I think you're being disingenuous, to be honest... |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 08:51 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. IMO, the issue is child genital cutting |
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Jax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-26-10 02:19 PM Response to Reply #37 |
48. Thanks, you are transparent. This is the CHOICE forum |
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shaayecanaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-26-10 09:47 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Actually I am looking for the hypocritical white racists forum. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
26. about smegma, use a washcloth or simply wash in the shower or bath. |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 09:38 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. TMI, but we girls get a similar substance that builds up between our folds. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:14 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. By the way, I'm female, realize rereading my post I didn't make that clear |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 09:15 PM Response to Original message |
29. It's not inconsistent, given that our culture pretty thoroughly endorses |
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VermeerLives (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-10 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
41. The AAP has reversed its recommendation on this |
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shaayecanaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-09-10 09:03 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Generally the boys don't have a choice, either (nt) |
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Safya (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-10 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
42. No. They have to prevent this stupid unfair act |
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shaayecanaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-13-11 09:18 PM Response to Reply #42 |
52. And we molest boys, right? (nt) |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-14-11 04:15 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. He's dead, Jim. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
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shaayecanaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-11 11:41 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Well, most American plastic surgeons perform labiectomies (designer vaginas) |
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The Liberal Ohioan (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
58. Yep. I'm disgusted. |
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Runework (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 04:14 AM Response to Original message |
59. maybe I'm culturally insensitive |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-11 11:02 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. If it were up to me, there would be equal rights for both genders |
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Sadena Meti (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
63. This is way off topic but interesting... |
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shaayecanaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 10:54 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. Indeed, some doctors do quite a significant trade in this kind of surgery... |
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