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pintobean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 08:54 AM
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Poll question: Pot poll
There are a lot of threads on the subject. What do you think?
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 08:58 AM
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1. Wasn't he the bad guy in Cambodia?
Or have I been smoking something?
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pintobean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 09:12 AM
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5. I know that dude, man.
Edited on Thu Apr-21-11 09:20 AM by pintobean
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 09:21 AM
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7. Killer weed from killer fields
I think I need to find some chocolate-chip cookies.

:hi:
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 08:59 AM
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2. Really, I don't care about dope threads. I used to be a daily
smoker, back in the late 60s and early 70s. I even grew my own a couple of times. I quit smoking it when the price went up too far for my limited income. Today, lots of people are still smoking it. It was risky behavior back when I was smoking, and it's still risky behavior. I think the laws should change, and they have in some places. I hope they change everywhere. So, I don't care if people post about it. It is, however, not the most pressing issue facing the United States. Not by a long shot. It's a minor issue.
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 09:12 AM
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4. minor issue?...
not by a long-shot

it is directly connected to our growing prison system which houses more people than any other nation on earth

it is a huge problem

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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 09:17 AM
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6. No, it's not a huge problem. Really it's not.
It's a problem, and one that needs to be solved. Wars are a huge problem. Health care is a huge problem. Social Security and Medicare are huge problems.

Dope? Not so much.

If I were still smoking it, I'd make sure I lived in a state where I couldn't go to prison for doing so. If I didn't live in such a state, I wouldn't smoke dope.

:shrug:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 09:27 AM
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11. There is an entire underground economy based on it. Naugh, it's not important.
Snort :rofl:
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 09:36 AM
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15. See my signature line.
My opinion. Yours may differ.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 10:24 AM
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21. So you have an opinion as does everyone. Does that mean you close your mind to other opinions, some
based in fact?
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CrossChris Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 09:28 AM
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12. Maybe you don't personally know anyone who has been jailed for their medicine
It breaks apart families, and causes trauma for people who are imprisoned over this stuff. I guess if you're the type that doesn't get affected by issues until they hit you personally, you can write that off as minor.

I'm not saying that it's for everyone--like me for instance, but I think it's barbaric that we IMPRISON people because of a conflict in state and federal law.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 09:35 AM
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14. Actually I do. He was a very stupid person.
That is all.
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Erose999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 09:39 AM
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16. Was it legal where you were when you DID smoke it? You're downplaying it as an issue but you very

well could have been one of those people suffering in the prison system now. Especially if you were to get caught growing your own.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 09:55 AM
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18. In the late 1960s? No. It wasn't legal. Yes, I took a risk in
Edited on Thu Apr-21-11 09:57 AM by MineralMan
smoking it and growing it. I was quite aware of that risk. As it turned out, dope smoking wasn't much of a law enforcement priority in the CA county where I lived. The risk was relatively minor. Had I been arrested for a small quantity of weed, I'd have gotten a short, suspended sentence. I never had more than an ounce in my possession at any time.

As for the growing, I did not do that at the place I lived, and the place I did it was a place that I never, ever, saw another person. Ever. Not very risky, really.

I knew the laws, and I knew the reality of how they were enforced. Seemed a practical bit of knowledge, I thought. I was careful, actually. Never got busted, never even got seen in public. I never drove with any dope on my person or in my vehicle. I never drove while stoned.

Somehow, I managed to smoke it every day for about four years, without getting busted for it. Nobody else I knew did either, except for this one moron who had a pound sitting on the back seat of his car on a day when he was speeding. He wasn't careful and, despite the local law enforcement's casual enforcement of the law, got to spend 30 days in the county jail for his stupidity.

So, no...I couldn't have been one of those people suffering in prison. I wouldn't smoke it if that was a possibility where I was at that time. I'm not a stupid person, and dope wasn't that big a deal in my life. It was just a daily habit that I ended when the price went up a little to high. Then, I learned about wine as a different way to relax.

I suppose most people who smoke it now are equally smart, know their local laws, and avoid the opportunity to get caught if the laws are severe. The others? Well, they aren't so smart, I guess.
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CrossChris Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 04:43 PM
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28. So if you're in jail, it's because you were stupid. Got it. Everyone should relax.
Only the stupid people are in jail for it! All those families that have been broken up, all the PTSD of incarceration is well deserved because those people weren't quite as stealthy about doing the EXACT same thing as you?
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CrossChris Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 04:43 PM
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29. For the record---MJ is not at all for me, but I think imprisoning humans for it is the most barbaric
thing a society can do.
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CrossChris Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 09:11 AM
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3. Why would people need a dungeon to talk about medicine?
For many people, it is medicine that eases the pain of disease. And there is conflict in its legality between the state and federal level. How is that not a relevant issue?
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 09:26 AM
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10. because most of the talk isn't about medicine
Most pot threads are about pot use for pleasure.


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uncle ray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 10:21 AM
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19. they are mostly about the legal status of cannabis.
particularly when compared to other substances like alcohol.

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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 09:23 AM
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8. I think it kind of depends on the thread
If it's about medical marijuana in most cases that's a thread I'd like to see here especially if it's something like a medical marijuana clinic getting raided or otherwise hassled by law enforcement because that really has more to do with inappropriate use of law enforcement than it really does about pot.

As for general "make pot legal" threads or "pot is great" or "pot does/doesn't impair you" type threads, yeah, I always thought they should be having it's own forum or going to some other forum.

I've always been really surprised how much pot threads there are here or that so many people here actually use it since I don't know anyone that uses it or grows it or sells it anymore and haven't for decades, yet for decades I've been surrounded by people (not by choice really) who do every other kind of drug imaginable including unprescribed scripts (for pleasure, not because they have a medical problem and can't get a script for some reason). For me it seems like DU is the only place left where pot is still "in fashion" so to speak.


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CrossChris Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 09:31 AM
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13. Every issue has the potential to embarrass someone. Why not have a dungeon for all subjects?
That way anyone taking an extreme stance on any issue can have their thread sent to the dungeon.
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Erose999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 09:44 AM
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17. Its probably more common around you than you think. Its not that big of a deal to most people

anymore. Most of the people who I know are casual users. If they are offered some they won't turn it down but they don't make it a point to seek it out. They could take it or leave it.
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 09:24 AM
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9. I'd rather talk about getting hemp legalized.
Y'all can talk about whatever else, but hemp is more important :)
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 10:23 AM
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20. can't vote for the goddamend ad blocking my choice but...
the first choice is the one I pick! :hi:
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 10:25 AM
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22. We have too many dungeons as it is.
Edited on Thu Apr-21-11 10:26 AM by Uncle Joe
If a subject is hot or important, it should be openly debated and discussed; the pros and cons, without trying to hide it; that's what the corporate media has done for too long.

Thanks for the thread, pintobean.
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pintobean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 10:43 AM
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23. Good points.
Edited on Thu Apr-21-11 10:46 AM by pintobean
Your opinion has pulled into the lead. It was getting clobbered, early on.

Edit: You've persuaded me away from my dungeon vote. Shame I can't change it.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 10:45 AM
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24. I forgot what I was going to write......
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 12:14 PM
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25. Dude, wait, what? What were we talking about?
:hippie:
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pintobean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 04:00 PM
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26. Huh, who knew?
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CrossChris Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 04:40 PM
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27. How in the world does a poll that is now 39-29 start off at 1-16? Unless...
Sixteen people were notified to take a crack at it as soon as it was posted? Or even before? This is a sincere question. It's not that I think this practice is against the rules or anything, but I'm just wondering how else something like that could happen.
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pintobean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 09:09 PM
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30. I don't care how sincere you are
its a pretty low accusation. Why on earth would you only see the possibility as being on the front end? Its a very biased assumption. You really don't deserve an answer, but I'll give one for anyone else reading this. All I did was post the poll. Other than the replies you see in this thread, I haven't communicated with anyone about it before or after posting it. I thought the way the results came in was weird, but so what. If people PMed each other about it, good for them. There's nothing wrong with people alerting like minded people to a pole. In case you haven't noticed, it happens here all the time - "DU this poll".

The bottom line is, its meaningless. Only 76 people voted. I posted it tongue in cheek and it was something to have fun with. That, I did and I think others did as well. I can't imagine why you would take it so seriously, but I really don't care.
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astral Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 11:23 PM
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31. I want people to have it if they want it.
I don't care if they need it for medicine or want to get high or just like to relax a wee bit and don't like to drink.

Or other!

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Sadena Meti Donating Member (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 08:44 AM
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32. Keeping it out of the hands of those it will harm.
Just a tidbit. Weed can really screw up some people, such as Schizoids and Schizophrenics. In this case it is clearly harmful.
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