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Progressivism Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 09:21 PM
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What do you think of this question and its answers ?
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090827020107AAgMngP

Just so you know, the "Government & Politics" section of Yahoo Answers is filled with people like this.
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 09:25 PM
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1. All I know is
the home-schooled children across the street (there were eight of them and the mother was doing their schooling) had to go to public school when the parents divorced. They all entered public school two grade levels below their age. So we taxpayers had to pay extra.

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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 09:35 PM
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2. EIGHT!
And the parents divorced, so you can imagine the quality of the "education" those kids were getting as their parents' relationship deteriorated to the point of splitting up.

They're lucky it was only two years they had to make up, but doesn't that just suck, in every possible way? The kids lose their "happy home," the parents are goofballs, they're suddenly in a strange school with people two years younger than they are, and they have to adjust to a new home situation as well.

Yeah, there's a fine, Christian foundation those poor kids got, right there.

I do hope they weren't forced to listen to the President's speech the other day. No telling how much damage that would have done to them...............:sarcasm:
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Progressivism Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 09:41 PM
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6. Another Question .
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 09:52 PM
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9. Fix your link n/t
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 09:58 PM
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12. I wouldn't want to work with that pompous prick when he hits the work force
And think of the poor woman who marries him. She'll be a fucking slave.
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 09:45 PM
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7. The mom is highly uneducated
When her kids got older, I know of three of them who were often in juvenile court. I know two of them dropped out of school before they graduated. One got pregnant at 15. I went inside what was once a lovely home (before the family moved there) and it was just horrible, horrible living conditions. The children were so sweet and affectionate when they were little. There was no way the mom could supervise them well, and one of the kids was severely burned over her entire back when she was about nine or so. Just tragic.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 09:52 PM
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10. Incompetent in every way,
and yet she looked down her nose at public school teachers, eh?

I feel so sorry for kids in situations like that. The whole sordid story is just tragic, but the arrogance of parents like that just kills me.

If there were licensing exams for parenting, a woman like that wouldn't be allowed anywhere near children......................
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 09:56 PM
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11. You are very compassionate. We had a family with 8 children living
near us and my father used to get mad at us when we would wonder why her home was always so cluttered. It was not dirty but just cluttered and messy. She did not really have the time to keep up with them. Then imagine what it would be like to try to home school them also.

I also have seen some families homeschooling when they did not have the competence to teach. I feel sorry for the kids.
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 11:46 AM
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21. And yet someone with 18 kids has an uncluttered home
and their kids are learning fine. It depends on the parent.
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 11:45 AM
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20. My best friend homeschooled all three of her kids -
two girls and one boy. Two of them attended college on scholarships for high test scores and she had only a high school education. In fact I've known lots of homeschooled kids and all of them did well or excelled in their schooling.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 10:25 PM
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13. That happens to kids who come from public schools, too
where the kid moved from a school district that had lousy resources to one that had sufficient resources.

It's all what is made available to the kids, and I'd say that the breeder who was running her own little red schoolhouse wasn't really up to the task.
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 09:39 PM
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3. How about this one >>>
" And the great thing about being home-schooled, you don't have someone lying to you telling you that the earth is one hundred million years old."

Aaaaaaggghhh!!!!
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Rincewind Donating Member (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 11:32 PM
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14. If anyone tells you
that the Earth is 100 million years old, they ARE lying! It's more than 4.5 billion years old.
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 04:24 PM
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17. Yep...I meant that both ways.
:)
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LuvNewcastle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 09:39 PM
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4. Some liberals home-school their kids, too.
There are a variety of reasons for home-schooling; I don't think all the reasons are valid, but I think it's a parent's right to do it.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 09:40 PM
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5. Hmmm. the one "home schooled" kid I know (14)
is now attending public middle school... but in the 6th grade.

He is two years older than any of his peers in the grade. Worse, at this point in life, 2 years is an eternity.

I asked some teachers if this was common... and they told me that he is actually better, academically, than others that have come back to public schools after home schooling.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 09:47 PM
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8. I love my kids,
and I wanted the best education for them.

I'm not stupid, but I never believed that I was in any way competent to home-school them. They were best turned over to the professionals, who did a very good job with them.

I'm always a bit overwhelmed by the - what is the word? - hubris, or confidence, or delusions of parents who dare to take on an undertaking as vast as their children's basic education when they're not trained teachers, and, even if they were, they're not up on all the subjects.

The idea that an English teacher, let's say the parents has a degree in English language and literature, is competent to teach plane geometry is laughable.

Maybe I'm timid, but I would never even consider such a thing.

Not to mention that kids learn everything in school about being part of a community, socialization, all the things kids need to understand that it's not always about them.

And they make friends, sometimes friends for life. I've always felt sorry for home-schooled kids, stuck in the house like that, with you mother/father, and no peers.

Like, at lunch time, where do they go to smoke?
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 08:50 AM
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15. The homeschooler who put forth the question
is lacking a basic understanding of statistics and logic.

1. One outlier with excellent test scores doesn't create a threat for public school students to get into college. To determine whether homeschoolers are more likely overall to get accepted to college, you'd have to look at their records as a group, not one case study.

2. A highly intelligent student who aces a test like that would be likely to get into college no matter what schooling method they opted for.

3. The reason teacher unions sometimes object to homeschoolers playing school sports isn't what the poster thinks. The issue isn't that they want the homeschoolers to not be allowed on the team - it's that they want the state to pass the appropriate pro-rated portion of the per-student funding to the school for those students to cover the school's costs if nonstudents are using school resources.

I have some issues with that last point, related to whether tax dollars earmarked for education should be getting used to fund football teams and coaches at all. If a large enough percent of their budget is going toward sports that it has a serious impact on their budget, maybe they need to relook at their priorities.


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Progressivism Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 12:10 PM
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16. Look at this.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AjIVzmlN2H8A1oMCiDkRKsIjzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20081015233030AAc3xe7

"I went to a charter school and it was MUCH better than regular schools.

A charter school is a public school.

Mine was no religion whatsoever however they have Seminary Release for all the Mormons.

Teachers Unions are BAD, they allow the BAD teachers to stay in the job they are in. Unions in general are bad for America.

If you actually went to a charter school you would realize that they are an improvement to the educational system

Statistics: my school, a charter school, had a 98% graduation rate. The other public school i was supposed to go to has a 46% graduation rate. Also there were alot of Mexicans going to the other school, hmmm....."

=(
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Progressivism Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:12 PM
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18. More food for thought here.
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:13 PM
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19. "Unions are bad for America" HAHAHAHAHAHA
Just wait until the corporatists want to employ eight-year-olds again. Think it can't happen? Think we can never go there again? Wrong-o, boy-o.
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