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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 04:32 PM
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Teachers’ union files labor charges over Central Falls firings
PROVIDENCE—A teachers’ union has filed a state labor complaint over a school board’s plan to turn around one of Rhode Island’s worst-performing high schools by firing the entire faculty.

The Central Falls Teachers’ Union filed the complaint Monday with the state Labor Relations Board, saying the firings are unfair. It accuses the school district of failing to bargain and not providing the teachers with information they requested on programming, professional development and other topics.

“We need to preserve the rights of the teachers at the high school,“ said Marcia Reback, president of the Rhode Island Federation of Teachers and Health Professionals, which includes the Central Falls union. “We’re very concerned about the jobs of the teachers.

...snip...

Reback said the district has failed to prove that the Central Falls teachers are incompetent or have done anything egregious. She said the high school teachers are overburdened by what she said was poor math education in the city’s elementary and middle schools.



More at the link below, but these four paragraphs are the only part that isn't "filler" (already-reported content).



http://www2.turnto10.com/jar/news/local/education/article/teachers_union_files_labor_charges_over_central_falls_firings/32333/
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 04:43 PM
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1. Let the "Democratic" attack on teachers and Unions begin
four- three- two- one...
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 04:51 PM
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3. How about the "teacher attack on teachers"
How else do you read "She said the high school teachers are overburdened by what she said was poor math education in the city’s elementary and middle schools." ??
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 06:49 PM
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9. Hiya Mitch!
So nice to see you. :hug:
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 10:33 PM
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16. hey, Likewise
not so interesting here these days
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 04:45 PM
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2. I agree with Reback but it doesn't do any good to start
pointing fingers at other teachers. Stand united or not at all.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 05:24 PM
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4. this happens in the early grades. by high school, you get what you
get. I taught elementary for 27 years first through sixth and if they don't get a solid fundamental foundation its just about over by fifth grade for too many.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 06:22 PM
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7. Yes, it happens but I'm not about to blame the elementary
teachers! Too many variables here to put the blame on teachers. How about we look at the parents for a change, their value of education (or the lack thereof) and what's happening and NOT happening in the home! Start THERE!
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 12:47 AM
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18. you will find agreement with me. I taught elementary for 27 years
and I know in the first three years success or failure is made for too many.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 05:42 PM
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5. duncan- obama shining example of union busting
throw the teachers under the bus so duncan-obama can get their perfect charter schools in central falls...

i`m so glad my kids are out of school...
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 05:50 PM
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6. union contract
http://www.ntlongcber.com/cber/docs/_CF.htm

Be interested in feedback from those who read through it.
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soleiri Donating Member (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 06:46 PM
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8. It's about 100 pages
What aspect of the contract would you like feedback?
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 06:49 PM
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10. just wondering what people make of it
comparing the contract with the dispute, etc...
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soleiri Donating Member (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 06:57 PM
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11. In what respect, Charlie?
(yay! a reason to use that!)

I saw another thread where you posted the same link,
so I was wondering,
(because comparing a 100 page document with another document would be time consuming)
if there was a specific area that I should look at.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 07:00 PM
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12. I don't have a union background
I've never been in one so I only have theoretical knowledge.

What I'm wondering is, how does how this contract is written affect the complaints coming from pro-union people that the contract was violated? I don't see it but I could be missing something.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 07:31 PM
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13. you always miss something.
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radical noodle Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 08:22 PM
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15. I skimmed the contract
The contract seems to directly contradict the notion that the school system could not "get rid of" bad teachers. There's clear written direction about the steps to take in that case (specifically Section 7). If some there were bad teachers, why wasn't this method used? If bad teachers are the problem with the school, then the administrators and board should have dealt with it in accordance with the contract. It seems there were no bad teachers or the administration and board were too lazy to do their job.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 07:35 PM
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14. In all likelyhood, the state/federal laws trump labor board authority
Edited on Tue Mar-02-10 07:36 PM by ProgressiveProfessor
whether we like it or not.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 11:18 PM
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17. post 15.
Edited on Tue Mar-02-10 11:20 PM by Hannah Bell
& the requirements you speak of are part of the new requirements for title 1 school improvement grants, which are themselves just a subset of all title 1 grant money. the school didn't have to apply for this portion of title 1 funding. it chose to.

the "four requirements" for "failing" schools aren't a general federal requirement.

duncan added this new requirement to the grant application because not enough districts were destroying their schools fast enough.

and, regardless, firing the teachers is not the only choice under the grant requirements; it's the one gallo & gist chose.
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 08:02 AM
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19. No... It's the option the union chose.
EVERY other case in the news recently has been one or more schools being closed and/or changed to charters. This was the only example I've seen where the teachers were even given an option of keeping their jobs. They (really their union with little/no input from rank and file members) elected to fight for a better deal.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 08:44 AM
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20. Let's hope the charges stick. nt
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